I Thought Ali Won The F.o.t.c.

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Interesting stats I think I had it 8-7 Frazier but it was close, Ali swept the early rounds, something like the first 5 on my card
     
  2. Senor Pepe'

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    Joe Frazier all the way,,,,,

    If anybody believes Muhammad Ali won that fight, then they have no business in
    scoring a fight or making a judgement.

    That decision was clearly Joe Frazier's.
     
  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    If anybody ever deserved the decision..of the greatest fight of their career to boot...it was Joe Frazier. He was almost superhuman that night.
     
  4. Senor Pepe'

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    Here are the scorecards,,,:deal

    Arthur Mercante;
    A A F F F A A F F A F E F A F = {8-6-1; Frazier}

    Arthur Aidala;
    A A F F F F F F A A F F A A F = {9-6-0; Frazier)

    Bill Recht;
    F A F F A F F F A F F F F A F = {11-4-0; Frazier}

    Remember, this was New York State Boxing rules.
    By round scoring.

    If this was a 10-point must system, Joe Frazier would have
    been awarded 10-8 (2-point win) rounds in the 11th and 15th.


    Saying Muhammad Ali won that fight is like saying Japan won
    World War II in the Pacific.
     
  5. Senor Pepe'

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    Red C,,,,,,,,,,,,

    'Smokin Superman' Joe Frazier vs. Muhammad Ali

    Nobody beats Superman,,,

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  6. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In fact it was so clear that Ali won he left the ring before the decision was announced.

    NO Ali lost and even he knows it. No matter what kind of stats you give if you watch the fight Frazier won. If that's not enough just watch Alis reaction at the end of the fight and post fight.
     
  7. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Thanks. I score it very close to how Aidala scored it: 9-6 or 10-5 for Frazier, depending on how much emphasis I put on effective aggression. The fight always seems closer to me than my scorecard because Ali had good moments in almost every round.
     
  8. Brownies

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    Ahaha, so true !
     
  9. Senor Pepe'

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    Smokin Joe changed the tempo of the fight in the 3rd Round.

    Muhammad Ali had hit Joe with his best punches, and Joe was still coming.

    With 10 seconds left in the round, Joe landed his potent left hook. Ali was hurt
    (later acknowledged by Arthur Mercante).

    It took Ali awhile to recover from that punch.
     
  10. horst

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    This is crazy talk.
     
  11. Bummy Davis

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    If anyone would have gotten the benefit of the doubt it would have been Ali and if the fight were close Ali would have been given the fight. Frazier landed the harder shots and had Ali badly hurt in the 11th round and then capped it off with the KD in the 15th.

    Both men were battered, Frazier around the eyes and Ali had a swollen Jaw but IMO there was no way the fight could have been given to Ali short of a robbery

    Frazier won it and put some chocolate icing on the top with a cherry but nothing is easy
     
  12. Guyfawkes

    Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! Full Member

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    Actually yea, i think u are the only ****ing person alive who thinks Ali won the Fotc

    Mabey you should take a hint?
     
  13. cuchulain

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    Big Ali fan here.

    But Frazier took it.

    Somewhere between 8-7 and 9-6.

    For me, most of his status as a top ten ATG rests on that victory.
     
  14. Senor Pepe'

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    The only person on the planet that had Muhammad Ali winning was,

    Radio Talkshow Host, Art Rust Jr.,,,,,,,who was admittedly,,,,,an 'Ali Shill'.

    The guy even scored the last round even,,,,,, which lost him respect from the New York Boxing Press.

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