I Thought Ali Won The F.o.t.c.

Some crazy **** thinking ali took more than 6 rounds.

 

Frazier 9 rounds, Ali 6. Out of all the scores, this one seems the most reasonable and realistic.

 

Good score,,,,,,,,,,:good

Plus give 'Smokin Joe' an additional 2-points for Rounds 11 & 15.

That would be 144 - 139 in points.

 

Score the fight for the recent late Joe Frazier. I think I gave Ali about 6 rounds on my card.
How can one fighter get knockdown and take a beating in said round(15) and have it scored even?

A lot of Ali homers would score this some what close fight for Ali, perhaps.(maybe??) But even they would have score round 15 for Joe Frazier.

 

10-5 Frazier. He didnt really need the knockdown in the last round but it was icing on the cake.

Give Ali credit for showing a great heart and proving his toughness but he got beaten soundly.

Joe Frazier was a machine that night. His quickness suprised many people. He was able to whip that hook to Ali`s jaw time and again. Ali underestimated how good Frazier left was.

Ali did land alot of punches early in the fight he was stinging Joe but as the midrounds came Frazier made Ali miss more than he ever had before. It was an impressive display.

It was just a great night.

 

Just goes to show what a chancey business it is, relying on the scorecards. The three judges only agree with each other in 7 of 15 rounds, and if you give Ali all the rounds which were scored for him by at least one of them he has 9 - enough for a comfortable win!

For what it's worth I personally had Frazier a narrow winner on rounds and, of course, a clearer winner on points.

 

Cheers for this always wanted to know roughly how many punches were thrown.

Frazier def. won the fight, Ali cruised through alot of the mid and later rounds and allowed Frazier to take them. However, i will say that when Ali won the round it was generally more convincing, Ali blitzed Frazier in the first 5 rounds but then tired while Frazier got warmed up. Add to this Frazier's constant aggression, lack of clinching and nearly taking Ali out in the 11th and the KD in the 15th.

 

I had it 9 - 6 in rounds to Frazier,Bill. The fight was close,but a decisive victory for Smokin' Joe. Ali lost the battle but won the war,as it took more out of Joe than it did Muhammad.

 

Believe it or not,I once knew someone who thought that Ali won their first fight,and that Joe deserved the verdict in their second bout !!!!!!!!!

 

Solomon,,,,,,,,

If you used that same formula with Joe Frazier, thats 13 rounds in which
one of the judges scored a round for him.

It looks like the consensus is 9-6-0 for 'Smokin Joe'.

 

9-6-0 all day long.

Hate punch stats and compu box stats!

Unless the stats can tell me:

A. What effect the power punches have on the opponent.

B. What force the punches(power or otherwise) are landed at.

Probably some more factors that are missed by punch stats by I write punch stats off in the main when scoring a fight...or we may as well revert to the awful olympic style scoring!

 

Ali lost the middle rounds and didnt get back into it until the 9th, and lost many of the rounds after that including the 11th & 15th.

 

Well, as I said, I'm not suggesting Frazier wasn't a deserving winner.

But it does illustrate what an inexact and subjective process scoring boxing matches is, and that this fight was too close and competitive to assume that anyone scoring it the other way must be deluded.

 

Frazier won it fair and square by at least 4pts on my card. 1 or 2 rounds were very close and could have went either way, but it was joes night

 

Frazier even won the 9th round. Or shouldve. He hurt Ali badly in that round and it looked like a stoppage was looming when Ali rallied in the last 15 seconds of the round.

Frazier hit Ali with a hook in that 9th round that was the best punch he ever hit him with.