I thought Canelo lost and these judges are terrible!!

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  1. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    46 fights, only lost to the 2 best fighters of his era, a cheater, Trout and Canelo with everyone against him. not bad. I see only Mayweather and Trout ass losses. We know margs cheated and im sure pac started juicing for the Pac fight :good
     
  2. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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  3. TMH

    TMH Active Member Full Member

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    TIL Boxing is corrupt. Just listening to the RBR, you know the judges had it in.
     
  4. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No proof Margarito cheated against Cotto in July 2008. No proof whatsoever!
     
  5. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was in Las Vegas this past weekend. Tons of Mexicans. Canelo has a huge fans base. Las Vegas is a fun city but I could never live there. The air quality seems poor and I would most likely be up to my neck in debt!
     
  6. boxing4ever

    boxing4ever Active Member Full Member

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    Cotto didn't do enough. A lot of close rounds but Canelo deserved it 8-4
     
  7. boxing4ever

    boxing4ever Active Member Full Member

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    I think margarito doing nothing but lose after that fight says it all.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Since you look like Cee-Lo anyway, this should be your theme song Buck.:deal:yep
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  9. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Long rant, did not read. But OP thinks Judes were terrible and insinuates Cotto won. This has been one of the easiest big fights to score in a long time. Canelo
    won easily and very convincingly. OP must be bitter or a re****, who know maybe both.
     
  10. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    buck...give it up.....I have. I had Cotto winning by 2 rounds (I've already admitted I'm bad at math so IDK how that translates to points) but I've given up trying to explain to these guys how poorly Canelo cut off the ring (he didn't) and how he simply followed Cotto around throwing a punch every now and then once in a while one of them shook Cotto. No way Canelo wins the 12th round....he stood around and just looked at Cotto for 5-10 seconds at a time doing nothing.

    Let's just move on. Canelo won't lose a points decision unless he is so schooled like Mayweather that even paid off judges HAVE to score against him or he gets KTFO. And let me remind you all the a judge scored the Canelo-May fight A DRAW!! That tells you all you need to know how he is protected by the powers that be.
     
  11. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Buck, you're good at picking fights, but you're starting to let your bias cloud your decision making. Don't slip into that mindset or you'll lose your ability to handicap fights. You have to remain objective and not get caught up in your emotions.

    I knew Cotto lost the fight after the first minute. I could tell Cotto was going to outpace himself, and start fading deep in the stretch. He also was breathing heavy, as if in desperation when he returned to his corner while Canelo was calm and collected.

    Cotto just didn't do enough. Canelo's defense was on point and Canelo was landing all the more difficult shots while Cotto was running around the ring in desperation.

    Honestly, I'm surprised Cotto didn't get stopped, but he clearly didn't have the look of someone who was in control of the fight. Sure, he fired some shots off, but they simply did not do any damage to Canelo.

    And then Canelo almost stopped him in the final rounds.

    I just don't see how Cotto won, and Cotto knows he didn't win that fight. Watch the fight again. You don't have to be right every time. You can miss one, but don't get caught up in bias or you're going to have a lot of these repeats where you get the pick wrong and lose money.
     
  12. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    shut up you eunuch jelly thou
     
  13. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loses to 1 admitted steroid user, 1 possible steroid user with stacked hand wrappings and Cotto with his New York referee to save him from the inevitable exhaustion that ends by taking a knee!
     
  14. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was at the fight and had it 117-111. Cotto couldn't have won more than 3 rounds imo. But 8-4 is good also!
     
  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wow, that's the one thing Cotto didn't do on a round by round basis. His offense was not consistently effective. Most of his offense consisted of throwing out the jab that wasn't consistenly landing clean on Canelo who did a great job of swiveling his waist and parrying off even the jab.
    With absolute certainty, Cotto's offense was not more effective than Canelo who's varied attack lead to him landing cleaner and much harder shots. Particularly effective for Canelo was his body shots to the body followed by some nice clean uppercuts. Canelo landed those in combinations of 2's and 3's.

    Listen, Cotto was a little bit busier than Canelo, but he wasn't landing his shots. Despite fighting well within himself, Cotto was being made to miss his shots by the swiveling Canelo.
    You have failed Buck to give any credit to Canelo for his defense.
    Canelo's defense was actually better than Cotto's on the night.
    When you rewatch the fight, forget about offense, focus on just the defense of both fighters and you'll find out what I'm talking about.
    Cotto's defense on the night was good, Canelo's was just simply better.

    That's not accurate. I didn't see the TV Azteca broadcast, but I saw their post fight show.
    From what I understand, Chavez and Barrera thought the fight was close that the rounds could tilt either way, but during the broadcast, they were focusing to much on what Canelo wasn't doing and not giving him credit for what he was doing.

    Its no secret in Mexico that a good chunk of Mexican boxing media don't like Canelo very much and are critical of his every fight and move. Chavez and Marquez in particular have feuded with Canelo through the Mexican media.
    I wouldn't complete discard it, but I'd take both Chavez' and Marquez opinion of the fight with a grain of salt.

    The 9-3 scorecard you're quoting came from MAB and Chavez, is actually from the TV Azteca's unofficial scorer, (their Harold Lederman) He's the one that scored the fight 9-3 Cotto, which the other ****yst in the broadcast team all disagreed with on the air.
    Ironically, the one guy on the broadcast who is a professional journalist and has been the most critical of Canelo's professional advancement in the ring, disagreed with everyone on the broadcast team and agreed with the official judges that Canelo Alvarez clearly won the fight. This guy actually said, "I saw a different fight from everyone on this broadcast team. I saw a much more defensively improved Canelo. He clearly landed the cleaner harder connects, and he outboxed Cotto which was a surprise to me. Gentleman, I'm sorry, but I felt Canelo dominated!"