i thought floyd doesnt want to fight @catchweight?

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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Random blood testing is not a new type of testing. How long have you even been following boxing. If wimpy amateurs can do it I'm sure your blood and guts hero Manny could handle it.

    Why not ask for it? Pac was asking for overweight penalties for his welterweight fights. What's the big deal?
     
  2. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We're not talking about the olympics. we're talking about professional boxing. Manny is not my hero. you are acting like a flaming *****. You made claims that Manny is asking for blood testing for Rios and that's why he's a hypocrit yet you cannot produce an article that quotes let alone suggests that Manny is asking for blood testing. (and that's the basis for why you think Manny is such a hypocrit)

    This is too easy. You are giving me uncontested layups. Why not ask for blood testing? don't you think that prevented the fight from happening? how about all that trash talk about on Arum? Didn't that prevent the fight from happening too? how are you supposed to negotiate a big fight when one promoter is trashing the other? you're comparing Pac asking for "overweight penalties" to accusing your opponent of taking banned substances. and by the way which fights was Pac requesting overweight penalties for?
     
  3. turbotime

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    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ting-more-evidence-he-ducked-floyd-mayweather

    The first line says Pacquiao is a hypocrite :lol:
     
  4. lester proctor

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  5. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Yeah so have you found any quotes from Pac's advisor stating he didn't ask? It clearly states he did.
     
  6. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never said he didn't ask. You could have found that in any other report, for example from espn or whatever. But you picked bleacherreport, probably for the editorializing, see the post I responded to.

    I'm tired of shitting on you, I'll learn from GGG and be a gentleman, as long as you learn this narrow lesson, not to link that site
     
  7. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :lol: Sure thing captain saveapactard
     
  8. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is the promoters fault, or do you think floyd decides all fights for Golden boy and Top rank. There has never been any fighters of the two stables to ever face each other and as long as Arum runs Top rank there will never be. That is why Pac and Marquez keep fighting each other there is no one else to fight. Look up golden boy Fighters around 147. Those are the guys that Pac,JMM, and Bradley will NEVER fight.
    Mathyssee, Garcia, Alexander,Khan,Alvarez, the list goes on. Pac ruined his future when he resigned with top rank and now he will not have another meaningful fight in his career. just rematches with bradley and JMM, or crap fights like his next one.
     
  9. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those guys are gonna free up when GBP goes down with Showtime, shouldn't be too long with Floyd's contract
     
  10. shadow111

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    you were the one who said that Manny asked for blood tests for the Rios fight. the burden is on you to prove what you said was accurate, not for us to prove you wrong.
     
  11. shadow111

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    So given that, doesn't that kind of explain why Mayweather Pacquiao never happened? If fighters of the two stables never face each other, then why would Mayweather Pacquiao be the exception to that rule?

    Which stable / promoter do you believe is more responsible for this? In your opinion, which side is the one that is preventing deals from being made to make big fights?
     
  12. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Are you saying that the contract with floyd will hurt showtime and GBP? Talk about a newbie. Dude read a sports page some time. Showtime is growing with Mayweather and GBP. HBO moved the Marquez fight to accommodate Mayweather and showtime. Showtime is not trying to make money off Mayweather. They will be very happy if they break even. The whole thing is to push HBO and Top rank back down the Ladder and it is working. What a dumb***!
     
  13. lester proctor

    lester proctor Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol: They're locked in a 6 fight contract with the break even point at 1.1-1.2m buys. Forbes echoed rumors of them losing 12m just on 1 fight, the Guerrero ppv. Their entire annual budget is 28m. Do you need me to do the math?
     
  14. witschnerd1

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    Both, they like in house fights so they don't have to split the purse with another promoter. When they do copromote, it is with a small time promoter and the big boys get a bigger piece of the pie. The other obvious reason is the risk of building up their competitions fighter while diminishing the rank of their own fighter.
    Mayweather vs Pac would not be the exception, that is the point. It is all bull, to keep the illision that a cross promotion fight might happen. Like Bradley vs Mayweather or JMM vs Matthaysse. Just to give the fans hope of a fight that has no chance of ever being made.
     
  15. witschnerd1

    witschnerd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is an investment for the future of showtime, and do you think they will lose money on the Alvarez fight too? Duh, it sold out first day. It will be close to 1.5 million buys if not more. What a dip****!