I thought Pac killed him! Now Floyd has to beat Marquez up to show the world that...

borj · May 3, 2009

have been waiting for you man, and you kept your word. you gave credit to pac at last.

at last. the peace in ESB i've been waiting for looms in. i hope it happens.

and for the other guys, go easy on him, he ain't talking **** right now, i think it's fair

nice read by the way and to be honest

borj · May 3, 2009

bladerunner said: ↑

Who are you and what have you done to Jeff?
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:rofl

borj · May 3, 2009

a fight with floyd is very difficult for pac. if they fight, win or lose i'll applaud pac. floyd is one of the most talented in this era if not the talented.

borj · May 3, 2009

double post

Farmboxer · May 3, 2009

Pac needs to get Void into the right ASAP, like yesterday!

Vitor Belfort · May 3, 2009

EJDiaZ said: ↑

Pacquiao is the New King of Jr. Welterweight, A Fight with Bradley is Interesting! But the Money is the issue! Agree Guys?
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Bradley was stripped by the WBC and he only has the WBO belt. Although i would love to see pac-bradley i doubt it will happen. Yes mainly cuz of the money issue but also cuz it's not a big name. Pacman is only fighting big name/big money fight at this stage of his career.

NALLEGE · May 3, 2009

borj said: ↑

have been waiting for you man, and you kept your word. you gave credit to pac at last.

at last. the peace in ESB i've been waiting for looms in. i hope it happens.

and for the other guys, go easy on him, he ain't talking **** right now, i think it's fair

nice read by the way and to be honest
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:good

3lb_thrill · May 3, 2009

pac is the king of lww... and he's not looking down (bradley, holt etc) --only up (bring on cotto).

its like in the military... you only gripe to your superiors.

NALLEGE · May 3, 2009

doomeddisciple said: ↑

I don't view anything with a colour basis.

My mates and I usually comment on the physicality of the fighters.

I had a loungroom of Aussies with bets 2 for and 2 against.

When Hatton was warming up, I had shown them the photos of the Tszyu wieghin and the Pac one and noted how it was the difference between He-Man and Skeletor for them.

Then I said he'd rehydrate and be bigger and they were all focussed on the size issue more than a stylistic one.

All of the people at my place have boxed before and we've all awatched fights together since Fenech Nelson II so there was nothing short of just exicted shock in the room as a result of the fight. Mostly myself and my mate who had picked Pac to win and had a dinner and 100 bucks riding on the fight and the other two in camp Hatton groaning, yet still appreciative of the result.

Colour/race doesn't come into it for me - It's if you're a good person or a **** one.
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boxbox · May 3, 2009

SkillsSoSmooth said: ↑

Very interesting read man :good , your boys were right though, Pac ain't never beat a top ranked black fighter before .
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This is stupid. question: was ledwaba black? Julio?...nevermind..they might just be dark from the sun.

NALLEGE · May 3, 2009

Silvermags said: ↑

both are great fighters. i think pac can beat pbf. i'd like to hear comments from roach what he will say if pac vs pbf hattons..

he knows his student (pac) so well. how many of us would agree with what roach said when he said pac finishes hatton in 3 rounds?!
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I thought it could've happened in the first round a while back. Most of us gave Hatton the benefit of the doubt that he would last more than a couple, and most of us said Pac would also beat Hatton too.

SkillsSoSmooth · May 4, 2009

Club Fighter said: ↑

We countin' Latinos, too. Aight. But 'Pac scrapes Guzman. Ain't enough bachata in the world that can have him dance out of the way of those Pacman lefts. You do know Guzman has no power, right?
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If you read the post properly you'd see i was talking about when Pac was at the lower weights, not NOW, Roach even came out and said he felt Guzman was a bad match up for Pac so don't get it twisted, also what the **** you mean "we adding latinos now"? Joan is a damn black man end of story .

vorapsak2002 · May 4, 2009

NALLEGE said: ↑

he is the best fighter in the world still. I thought I heard Hatton's jaw crack after Pac landed the straight left. Hatton was unconscious when he got hit, and woke up after he hit the canvas. I screamed to my friends...lol, "He killed him lol". Hatton, if you want to be honest just hasn't seemed right since the Floyd loss. Lazcano had him hurt badly to the head and body. This doesn't take away from what Pac did for this reason. Hatton has still only lost one fight to Floyd, and he brought in a proven defensive trainer in Floyd Sr. I was so impressed with Pac because he came out so fast and so aggressive which was kind of unexpected to many...but not to me. I said Pac had to punch with power, and he did. The man has carried his power to what ever weight class he fights in. Pac landed hard right hooks from the door, hard body shots, and put him to sleep with the big left that Hatton never saw. Hatton's jaw hit his shoulder, nd it looked like how Hearns felt when he hit Duran. It looked as if Pac felt it throw his body. Pac is in full bloom of his skills. I was very impressed.

This is the Pac I love to watch. Pac is in his absolute prime now, and he looked superb in destroying Hatton. People will talk about Pac and Floyd's common opponents and how Pac beat them better than Floyd did...if that means much considering both won their fights with Dlh and Hatton...but WAIT ONE MINUTE LOL. Floyd has a date with Marquez, and if you saw and heard what Floyd said Saturday Pac fans lol...you better slow down clown! Floyd's fans are waiting until July 18th to litter the boards with "Floyd will stop Marquez threads" lol. PAc had his moment, and now it is Floyd's turn. Congrats to Pac on a big win in such stunning fashion. No Pac hating from me, just reality. Pac is a fight away from becoming a legend. that fight has to be against Floyd. Pac being too small for Floyd isn't an excuse anymore. Pac has a great chance against Floyd, and this is coming form a guy who favors Floyd over Pac.

Common opponents means nothing in boxing. Styles make fights. Junior Jones beat Barrera, Morales beats Jones, Barrera beats Morales, Pac beats Barrera, Morales beats Pac, Pac beats Morales. I can come up with a 1000 scenarios of this happening. Scream all you want Pac and Floyd fans about who beat who and how who beat who. Scream until your lungs collapse. The fact of the matter is PAc and Floyd have not fought yet. Floyd has to beat J.M.M to get his mega fight with Pac. Arum can't scream fight Pac at 140 Floyd or no fight at all, and Floyd can't scream Pac...fight me at 147 anymore since he is fighting J.M.M at a catch weight. If this fight isn't made, we will all know why.

Floyd looked superb last night at the announcement of his come back. He looked lean and sounded confident.

I hope this doesn't bring down the thoughts of my post, but I sat back and listened to my people's after the fight. There were 11 of us. We are all African American, and between the ages of 30 and 40. Believe what I'm saying or not. After Pac won my boys were shocked, and kept saying stuff like, "how could Hatton let PAc hit him so clean like that...why was Hatton's hands down...who was the last black guy Pac fought, has Pac ever beaten a black guy, and all this stuff about how black fighters this and that and how black fighters beat everyone including Mexicans", and all this junk. I had to school them on history from Sanchez-Nelson all the way back to Saddler-Elorde.

Two of my boys think that Pac gives Floyd hell, and one of my boys whose name is Wab said that Pac is going to put it on Floyd because two years is too long a layoff. We went on for about an hour talking boxing. I had to straighten these guys out because some of them said they saw PAc go down in a fight, and I said, unless you have PAc's early fights, you haven't seen Pac go down in a fight. They imitated PAc's punches, and they couldn't even imitate PAc correctly lol. I had to straighten them all out on Pac.

The point of this story is that PAc has to beat Floyd to prove to everyone, and not just the HBO shirts and Hollywood stars,...he has to beat Floyd to get street credibility. My boys know about Pac. They kept saying how Pac kept pawing his jab, and how PAc jumps in. They don't understand that this is PAc's style because they are so used to seeing how black fighters fight, and they think that PAc is a fighter with flaws. I had to tell them, that all fighters have flaws, even Floyd. They picked on me...(an ex-professional boxer and champion)for a sec and said that I was picking PAc over Floyd. Can you believe that? My friends of course were all filled with Coors Lite, Bacardi Dark and Patron lol. no fights, not at my house. They know that I don't play when it comes to talking out of your ass lol. Just keeping it real with you guys. I would love to hear how guys talk boxing at your cribs with your boys. I'd like to read about how other races talk boxing amongst each other.
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****! its too long! WHERE IS MY READING GLASS!!!

Cocteau · May 4, 2009

NALLEGE said: ↑

Floyd looked superb last night at the announcement of his come back. He looked lean.

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Apart from your X-ray vision of seeing his biceps and abs. Did you also see his amazingly fast counter-punching reflexes behind the suit he's wearing. I mean, C'mon man!

BoxingFanNo1 · May 4, 2009

bladerunner said: ↑

Nobody is reading that ****.
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Correct.

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