I told a few I would man up if I scored the 12th wrong in Cotto-Mosley.

I had previously scored the 12th round for Cotto because of Mosley's inability to throw punches down the stretch of the round. That was my reasoning. After watching it last night I have changed my mind and given it to Mosley, meaning my card turns to 114-114. I told a few of you I would do this after announcing I gave Cotto round 12.

 

Neither threw many punches in that round, but there is no question that Moselyl threw and landed more + was the clear aggressor.

Simply put, Cotto for whatever reason took the whole damn round off and does'nt even deserve consideration to merit the round.
I was beside myself when I was watching it live......I said, what the heck......the fight could very well be in teh balance in this final round, and Cotto is'nt even trying to win it!atsch

 

You had a week to think about it and a chance to watch it again. The judges had to make up their mind right then and there.

 

Regardless, the right way to score the round was 10-9 Mosely!

.....a guy looking to give the round to Cotto for personal reasons may have done so at first viewing......but on second viewing, reality sets in!:deal

 

Divac, Nice Plunkett!!!! Should be in HOF!!!!!!!

 

:good :yep

 

Round 12 of Cotto-Mosley is a round where nothing happened, but it's a round I am content to score for Mosley because at least he walked forward and tried to engage a little, whereas Cotto showed no intererest whatsoever in fighting and took the round off.

I distinguish rounds like these from other rounds which involve engagement between the fighters, but feature an agressor and a fighter that fights in reverse. I don't penalise a fighter fighting in retreat in a close round just because he was fighting in retreat, that's unless he fails to engage.

Anyway, here's my card for what it's worth: 116-114 Cotto

Molsey rounds 3,7,11 and 12.
Cotto rounds 1,2,4,6,8 and 9.
Rounds 5 and 10 even.

I have no issue with anyone scoring this fight a draw, but I find it hard to see a Mosley win. I think my card differs from most in that Mosley is often given the second round (as well as my even rounds). I have watched round 2 quite a few times now, and he quite simply didn't win it.

 

You scored round 9 for cotto ?

Round 9 was the CLEAREST mosely round of the entire fight. All the cotto guys on here say that was mosley's round.

116-114 cotto ? wtf were you watching

 

What rubbish. If you scored the ninth for Mosley you did for one reason only: he was coming forward. Cotto, meanwhile, was the one landing the clean, effective blows. Without doubt.

The HBO commentary for that round was disgraceful. They ignored all the punches Cotto was landing and kept focusing on Cotto moving backwards and surmising he was hurt, or that Shane was coming on and forcing Miguel back. They completely ignored the action and focused on what was causing Cotto to retreat.

 

Hmmmmm....I believe round 9 was the round where Mosely landed a left uppercut and froze Cotto....from then on Cotto started his retreat almost to the end of the fight......

.....anyways, I let a friend borrow the fight, so I cant be sure thats the round I'm speaking of....but if it is, coming from you it would'nt suprise me that you scored it for Cotto.......

.....Mosely does all the work in it, even hurting Cotto, and you as has become your cutom give it to Cotto based on most likely 3 or 4 plum shots to the face that may have not landed hard, but landed clearly and cleanly.

:yep I've just got to chuckle that you would do such a thing as to score a round like that where Mosely clearly outlanded, outhustled, and even hurt Cotto!
......but like I said, I'm never shocked at the scoring of individuals who have a deep admiration of Pernell Whitaker!


However, I'll rewatch round 9 and post back most likely on Wednsday, as I should have gotten my copy of the fight by then!


Btw, I scored the fight for Mosely 116-112.....there should'nt be any shock there. I like a fighter who is busy, aggressive, and throws and lands the harder blows.

I scored rounds 1,2,6, and 8 for Cotto.

Rounds 3,4,5,7, 9,10,11, and 12 for Mosely.


This is one of those rare fights for me where I can actually see where somebody could have scored the other way and given the fight to Cotto by a round.
There were two or three rounds in the fight that were close enough to have been scored the other way.
I value aggressiveness, so I tend to score a close round like that to the aggressor!

I believe that the scoring criteria does say that emphasis should be put on clean punching and effective aggressiveness.
In those close rounds I talk about, both landed clean and hard, but who was the effective aggressor??????:think
See what I'm saying?

 

Round 12 was Mosley.

115-113 Cotto fianal score.

 

Mosley landed no uppercuts at all in round 9. Cotto just outboxed him and the HBO crew were looking for reasons for why Cotto was backing up. Was he hurt, was he tired, was it the cut in his mouth? What it was was boxing off the back foot and piling up points.

Coming from a man who scored Mosley-Forrest II for Shane, I wouldn't expect anything less!

Interesting that you gave round 7 to Shane then. That was a fairly close round, and all Mosley did was skip around and flick out a jab every so often. Cotto meanwhile stalked him the whole round.

Well there's 4 scoring criteria, and all 4 have to be taken into account, with an emphasis on clean punching. Should nothing else seperate the two fighters but effective aggression, then the round should go to the effective aggressor. However, as so often happens, if the fighter moving foward doesn't land much of what he is throwing, it's often the case that the fighter on the retreat shows better defense, and then the round becomes harder to score.

Whilst I feel a draw in this fight wouldn't be a bad verdict, I feel that overall Cotto boxed well enough to edge it.

 

Why the hell do you keep mentioning HBO all the time ?

I didnt even watch it on HBO , I watched it on Setanta. The world doesnt revolve around America you know ?

The Setanta commentators couldnt have been more biased towards Cotto, any non-boxing fan watching it would have thought Cotto won every round, even in the rounds Mosely won all they would say was "Cotto is squeezing the life out of Mosley" or some **** like that.

I remember there was a Mosley 5-punch combination that they stayed totally SILENT for and as soon as Cotto landed something back it was ****ing headline news.

I STILL scored the fight for Mosley.

Man the fact that your defending your decision to give round 9 to Cotto says it all. He DID land the uppercut that was mentioned, dunno wtf u were watching, in round 9 and Cotto was hurt.

If it hadnt have been for that stupid ref, Cotto was ready to go down. This is all round9 btw.

 

going into the 12th, i had it 7-3 with 1 even, and I gave the 12th to Mosley b/c Cotto did absolutely nothing. doesnt matter though, Cotto still won 7-4, 1 even in my book.

 

You're talking about round 10 champ. And you're exaggerating at that.

I've watched round 9 enough times now to know what I saw. If you have the fight, go watch round 9 again and come back and let's discuss it. You're NOT talking about round 9 here.