I truly thought Floyd wanted the fight. Here's some news anyway....

He doesn't have to concede because he has the upper hand in terms of negotiation. Pac walked away to fight Clottey and that was his mistake because when Floyd beat Shane he gained some negotiation power. Even Michael Koncz agrees with this. Back then they could've agreed to 19 days but Bob Arum wasn't patient enough. Instead he walked away like an angry *****.

I don't think Floyd is worried about what the fans think. He has enough supporters to keep him content. People have been talking trash about him since his career started. So it's not something that will cause him to lose sleep.

As I've stated in my previous posts, the 14 day deal is no longer valid. Pac cannot expect the same deal to stand after he and his team put a bad taste in Floyd's mouth the first time around. I'm afraid Team Pac will have to concede to Floyd's new demands. Either that or fight Margarito which will do nothing for his legacy.

 

the shane fight did not do anything to make pac less marketable or less greater of a fighter. this fight is not for floyd alone to dictate that is why we have negotiations. now that pac agrees to floyd's previous terms, floyd changes it. yes floyd has a choice of not fighting pac but this fight is being demanded by alot of fans. it's now floyd's move and if he doesn't care about the boxing fans, then he will continue to press with his (changing) demands.

 

Pac is still a global star, but once again, Floyd has negotiation power because he is currently the bigger cash cow. Like it or not that's just how the business of Boxing works. Floyd can and will dictate or at least gain a bigger piece of the pie. You have to understand Floyd changed his demands long BEFORE Pac came forward with his agreement to the 14 day deal. So it's not like Floyd is reacting to Pac's latest course of action. In fact, Floyd hasn't said a word about re-negotiation since his last match. All this talk and nonsense about him ducking and being afraid is in the deluded minds of obnoxious fans who are seemingly obsessed with making either Floyd or Pac look bad.

All Pac has to do is take the tests with no cutoff date and the fight will happen easily. It's not a lot to ask for. If they wanted a fair deal they should've accepted the offer the first time around. Once again, now that Floyd is the bigger PPV star in America, Pac has to concede the same way Shane did. If I'm Pac I take that deal because I'd do just about anything to get my hands on Floyd inside the ring. If he beats Floyd he can have the right to dictate a rematch if it should happen.

 

pac is nowhere near shane mosleys level to be bullied by floyd. he is by far a draw in his own rights. who else would pull 0.7MPPV by his name alone?

it's alot to ask for when those test are the main reason for not making the fight the first time around. floyd could also stop with these demands and the fight will be easily made (assuming floyd doesn't demand more than 50/50). the current state is pac conceded while floyd makes a new demand. of course i perfectly understand for the floyd fans to defend floyd's action but you have to at least agree with me that floyd's recent actions makes the fight harder to make. and if you would tell me that it was not a recent action since he withdrew his offer of 14 days already way before, do you admit that floyd really wants to make it hard for pac to say yes next time?

 

Arrrgh, I understand Floyds stance but I will be disappointed in him if when it comes to it he doesn't agree to 14 days.

 

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Let's not use the word "bullying." When Cotto fought Pac and conceded to Pac's demands, was Pac bullying him?? The answer is NO. You need to understand that it is just the nature of business when one guy has power over the other. It might be the only way the fight happens because when you have two guys who think they should get all the power, there's back and forth action that never ends.

No. It's not a lot to ask for when there are only 6 random blood tests involved in the program. Who's fault is it? I say both sides are to blame. Sure, Floyd made it difficult with the tests, but he wasn't the first to introduce stipulations. It was Team Pac who came up with the glove size demand and weight penalty clause. You can't say they have been completely easy to work with because much like Floyd, they wanted to gain advantage going into the fight.

Sure, it's difficult to make the fight happen. Then again, nothing great comes easy. Both Floyd and Pac currently disagree on terms of the deal therefore it's not going anywhere. I don't think you understand what's currently going on. Sure, Pac conceded but he's digging up the old deal which is no longer in effect. It's somewhat of a psychological trap because if Floyd shoots it down Pac is hoping Floyd's fans will turn on him. But you must understand Floyd never wanted to offer a cutoff date. You either take the tests w/o a window OR you walk away. Simple as that. Either way I don't think either fighter should be ridiculed because at the end of the day they simply couldn't find a way to come to an agreement, that's all.

 

looks like the fight is farther from being made than it has ever been. hope is killing me.

 

I know what you mean. I think we gonna get the fight as long as both teams can stay away from the media.

 

i only used the word bully as a substitute for making them agree to your own terms if you are the bigger draw. it happens especially when you are the much bigger draw which is certainly not the case when it comes to floyd over pac. floyd is way bigger draw over mosley, pac is a way bigger draw than mosley but floyd is not a way bigger draw over pac nor vice-versa, thus this fight needs to be negotiated on even terms. a hard-line stance would not make this fight work.

it would be much easier for this fight to make if both fighters would concede or give away something in order to make the fight and not to think of forcing his own way upon the other totally.

 

Anybody thinks these talks from both camps is just a hype job?

 

HMMmmmm, NO.

:huh YOU mean pacquiao, RIGHT??

 

I was on Floyd's side during the last brouhaha with Pac, but if the 14 days is no longer good enough for Floyd then I gotta start wondering if he really wants this fight.

 

This **** needs to get sorted - if these guys dont fight each other i aint gonna watch another of there fights.

 

Especially if Pac fights another Clottey