I understand boxing is the manly art of self defense but...

Motor City Sam · Jul 23, 2007

Street Lethal said:

I don't know where people got the idea that clinching is a legitimate form of self defense. It's not. The boxer making the clinch is supposed to lose points and even be disqualified if he clinches too much.

We are going through one of those suckass times when clinching is tolerated. If officials care about the sport they will stop tolerating holding and start punishing it.

Boxing fans don't pay to see clinching. If you can't defend yourself the proper way then you shouldn't box.
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Street, I don't think it's just these times. There have been fighters who have done a lot of clinching in every era. Right or wrong, it has long been a tactic that fighters use, some more than others.

achillesthegreat · Jul 23, 2007

fists of fury said:

I'm not sure it's even about defensive fighters. Sure, we all like a brawl or a shootout, but most I think, could still appreciate a vintage Whitaker or Pep or someone like that.

I understand B-hop isn't the fighter he used to be. He's relying on smarts, "street" skills, a few under-handed tactics and so on to help win fights. It's a skill sure and he does it well, but it's ugly. It's really, really ugly. Hopkins in my opinion, no longer fights with honour.

I can pretty much appreciate all styles of boxing, from the Tysons to the Mayweathers of this world, but there was a point in the Hopkins v Wright fight (somewhere around the ninth round) where I was *this* close to turning off the TV. I had had enough of this mauling, clinching rubbish.
I felt as though I had been ripped off, and a suspect many in the arena that night felt the same, judging by the boos. I know fight crowds can be a fickle bunch, but I for once, agreed with them. I don't know what you'd call it, but it wasn't boxing.
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I appreciate all boxers, even the journeymen but the Xs and Floyds aren't great for boxing. I don't blame them for what they do, they wouldn't have as many Ws if they just started rucking. But for boxing as a maintstream form of sport entertainment, it isn't good.

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I understand boxing is the manly art of self defense but...

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