I want an insite into the mind of those rating Bernard Hopkins amongst the top 5 P4P

Seeing as how you're a prophet and what not, whenever i see your name i have to read what you said and pick up on your wisdom..:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

The bad part is that any young, fit and hungry LHW would have smoked Tarver and the 170 version of Wright in probably more impressive fashion and by that I mean by devastating stoppages. I'm thinking of the Dawson-Diaconu type of younger and hungrier larger men.

Then don't even get me started on the SMW's like Kessler, who'd not only have brutally destroyed Jermain Taylor, but would have massacred Wright moving up in weight and the same to Tarver.

The credit for those wins however over the very same names would have been much less, even though credit in high amount would be deserved.

I really hate this type of garbage mentality when it comes to boxing.

 

I agree 100%.

Just around the time of the Winky fight, I stated there were about a dozen SMW's or LHW's that could have done what Hopkins did - and was blasted for it.

I cannot believe people that say, and mean, that Hopkins is the best LHW in the world.

 

An old Bernard Hopkins beats any version of Calzaghe.

 

Well he did smoke Tarver......

 

Winky and Hopkins(past prime) both struggled with Jermain Taylor for christ's sakes, a guy who could not even compete among the best of the SMW-LHW crop, who scrapes by LMW competition and falls apart to pressure.

The funny thing is that Wright's going to accomplish nothing at this point, I couldn't realistically pick him over even an Arthur Abraham level large MW hitter and then people will realise what the win meant in hindsight. Then when Pavlik starches Jermain Taylor with relative ease, the entire triad of Winky-Taylor-Hopkins comes to perfect conclusion, but everyone will act like they were of this line of thought all along.:yep

And look, I LOVE Hopkins, he's been a pleasure to watch through his career, I have nothing against the man himself.

I do get heavily annoyed when P4P recognition is kept within a 'set group' of fighters and therefore blocks out many great talents that could even destroy that 'set group' with relative ease.

Hopkins and Wright are still top 10, tied with Jermain Taylor for recent resume at that and Mikkel Kessler is not top 10, or even small guy Ivan Calderon, who highly deserves a top 10 ranking.

The ironic thing is that Kessler has beaten several large SMW's that would have smoked Jermain Taylor, ending that ridiculous fraud, but fighters of Taylor's western earning potential only go after the set of names, they don't theoretically go for avoided challenges.

 

Although beating Tarver hardly proves he is the best LHW.

 

That's my point. Tarver is nothing special - lots of SMW's and LHW's would have beat Tarver fighting the way he fought Hopkins.

 

How? His faded timing(his biggest weapon against JC). His necessary conservative pace? His record against larger men with great foot and handspeed?:yep

Give me a break.

 

Gotta agree with you there, Tarver fought like ****... Clinton Woods would have destroyed him that night, along with Kessler, Calzaghe, Dawson just to name a few.

 

The thing with Wright is that people had him highly regarded before the Hopkins fight. Before that, most would have him even money at least with people around his weight. Or only slight underdog at most. Now he is being talked about like his defense is weak, whereas before it was being touted as the best of his generation.