I want an insite into the mind of those rating Bernard Hopkins amongst the top 5 P4P

I love Hopkins, but don't guess he deserves to be top 5.

 

Ever thought that people don't have to justify themselves to you?

 

He deserves lower top 10, nothing higher. Even then, a measure of generousity comes into play.

 

Who is your top 5?

 

If he fights and beats a GENUINE SMW or LHW at that weight, I'll withdraw any complaints.

Currently, he appears to be on a seniors tour, that's what frustrates me.

Wouldn't surprise me if he fought the winner of Jones Jr/Trinidad next, in what some people *cough*Americans*cough* will be billing as the fight for #1 P4P spot......

 

1. Manny Pacquaio
2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
3. Cristian Mijarez
4. Joe Calzaghe
5. Juan Manuel Marquez

It varies though, this is for the next two months.

 

Thats a little too far, Tarver was a genuine LHW... I don't care how he fought. Winky Wright was a great win also. It's impressive for a MW to beat Tarver, even if the worst Tarver in years showed up, its still impressive.

 

Why Pac over PBF?

 

Aside from an old, inactive DLH. Name me Pbf's last 5 fights in terms of competition and then compare it to Pac's last 5.

I find Pac's slightly superior, as with the way he dealt with them(PBF struggling early with Judah for example).

 

well, my p4p criteria is split on career accomplishments (taking heavier basis on recent ones) and skill.

one can make the case that bernard is probably the most accomplished fighter of this generation. he may not be the youngest nor most athletic but his ring wizardry is what makes him one of the best today.

so based on my p4p criteria, bernard is a top 5 lock.

 

If you seriously take 'skill' into the equation. Then guys like Kessler and Mijarez are in there also, because both are extremely finely skilled at their craft.

How about Calderon? Good accomplishments at his weight level and one of the most skilled boxers around.

 

Great thread, CHJ.

Its great what Hopkins can do at 42, but being top p4p'er is ridiculous, while beating an absentminded Tarver, but hardly had been in training. Beating past prime smaller guys. Well the list goes on...

I have said it before - the circle jerking matchups with the great reward vs risk fights are sickening.