I want an insite into the mind of those rating Bernard Hopkins amongst the top 5 P4P

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by China_hand_Joe, Aug 28, 2007.


  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After Joe Calzaghe beat Lacy where did people place him P4P?

    Most people top 10.



    The day before Calzaghe beat Lacy, where did people put Joe P4P? Outside the top 10.


    Did Joe magically, over 24 hours suddenly become a better fighter than he had been previously, did he do this aged 34? No, of course not. Calzaghe had always been that good. I'd had him my P4P number one for 5 years before than and that didn't change after he beat Lacy, unlike everyone else in world.

    Why didn't my list change?

    Because it was right in the first place, because I go on the fighters ability not their resume.


    Don't hate me because of my superior insight into the sport. My ability to look past resumes and other American rubbish.
     
  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    And why are you CLEARLY exaggerting to try and justify your point? I was talking about Tito fighting at MW. AFTER he was at 154 for a couple years. THEN moving to MW, where he fought and demolished a very skilled titleholder.

    And you repond with nonesense about Floyd, who started at 130, and Pac, who started at 112, fighting at HW and losing to Wlad? :patsch

    You are clearly reaching for something, but there's nothing for you to grab.
     
  3. KhanB

    KhanB Active Member Full Member

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    I remember Trinidad ranked #3 by most major boxing publications and so called experts. And Hopkins didnt just beat him, he dismantled him when a LOT of tito nuthuggers were by looking past Hops and thinking Tito could beat RJ. Nobody else molested Joppy before or since tito and that means nothing? Who else at middleweight couldve domintated your boy like that besides hopkins? If it wasnt for hops, tito wouldve been middleweight champ until Winky came along and beat his ass.
     
  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    You have no superior insight, that's obvious. You're just a stuck up poster looking to ruffle feathers. Rather juvenile for someone who thinks they are above everyone else.:roll:
     
  5. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    They are trying to take things into the prober context. Beating RJJ of the now doesn't equate doing it 8 years ago.
     
  6. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I am exagerating my point to make clear to you your massive error.

    Trinidad was a world class operator even at 160, but there are usually several dozen such fighters in the world at any time.
     
  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Then why was I am I the only one not needing to change my P4P listings on a weekly basis?

    Why was I the only one that didn't suddenly bump Calzaghe up 10 places?

    Because I fore-see everything.




    Guess what mate. Hopkins is out my top ten (has been for a while due to decline), and as soon as he faces a very good LHW he will lose, and you'll all copy me, months too late.

    RINGS P4P list will end up comforming to mine regarding Hopkins. Because I do it correctly based on the present and they are American influenced.
     
  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    No **** it doesn't. Who said beating RJJ TODAY would do that? Like, NO ONE?:huh

    You want to talk proper context, try using an example IN PROPER CONTEXT. :deal
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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  10. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Yeah, China hand is in rare form tonight....:lol:
     
  11. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I disagree...Fighters, even those on the elite level, are CONSTANTLY improving themselves... So Calzaghe in his PRO debut, would NOT have been the same fighter as Calzaghe vs Jeff Lacy...
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Some of this stuff is just brilliant.:yep :good
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    No, you're exaggerating because that's the best you can do and ALL you can do. You tried to make a point and failed miserably. That's a fact son. :deal

    Which P4P lists change on a weekly basis BTW? Please explain, becuase I don't deal in generalizations. Ring Magazine only changes their after a fighter listed fights. And not always then either.
     
  14. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He has been that good from about 2000 onwards. The Reid fight was his last big learning experience.
     
  15. KO Boxing

    KO Boxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wouldn't have won every round off Jeff Lacy in 2000-to about 2003/4 (the guy that fought Reid could have possibly even lost)... And if he doesn't win every round off Jeff Lacy, he ain't in ANYONE's pound 4 pound top ten... ;)