I want an insite into the mind of those rating Bernard Hopkins amongst the top 5 P4P

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  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This post will show you exactly what happens if Hopkins - Calzaghe ever gets made.

    In reality though, the American will ignore the facts again and continue viewing boxing in a trance of ignorant bliss.
     
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  2. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch

    And you were giving me a hard tine about context? Since when did RJJ and Hopkins fall in the same category.
     
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  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    H2H in their respective weight region. I don't pretend that I am never wrong, I am wrong at times like anyone else. I don't take offense to boxing discussion though.:yep

    I consider Pac better H2H at 130 than I do Floyd at 147-154. Floyd can no longer make 140 in good health, his body has well grown into a welter. You even agree, as a Margarito fan no less, that plenty of WW's would trouble or defeat Floyd.

    Right now, the only fighter who I give a real shot at Pac at 130 is JMM, and only because JMM has him figured out stylistically going into the fight. Even then, and with you knowing that JMM is one of my favourites, I still pick Pac to beat him this time around in good logic.

    And some people do take what I say seriously, likewise I take seriously what other good posters state on here, because we all want to learn something from each other.
     
    Amsterdam, Aug 28, 2007
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  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :patsch

    And you claim to be an intellect?
     
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  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Remember Tarver's last fight? We know he is kind of rubbish now, we saw he was inactive and rubbish against Hopkins.

    A lot of fighters could have mullered Tarver that night. Hopkins did well for a 40+ year old, I'm not taking his victory away from him. I am completely dismissing the notion it makes him a top P4P fighter though.

    It is a great achievement that adds to his greatness, not something to place him on a proper P4P list.

    It might get him on one of those American lists that prefer names on resumes to the facts and reality though.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Aug 28, 2007
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  6. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Another clear exagerration to try and make a point. :roll:

    You exagerrate and deal with generalizations. Makes your posts meaningless.

    Funny thing I like Joe C A LOT more then I like Hopkins, who's kind of a dick.
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Aug 28, 2007
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  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
    Amsterdam, Aug 28, 2007
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  8. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Sometimes your posts make me do this.....:lol:

    Then there are posts like the one above that make me do this....:patsch

    Resume has nothing to do with p4p....wow...ummmm, wow.
     
    sues2nd, Aug 28, 2007
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  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You were absolutely grasping at straws mate and have failed to dismiss a single point or adequately defend your own.



    In this thread I have Lacy-ed you.

    You'll never be the same poster again.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Aug 28, 2007
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  10. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Do you agree Calzaghe would beat Hopkins at this point in time?
     
    China_hand_Joe, Aug 28, 2007
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  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    :asskiss :patsch
     
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  12. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    SEE NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!!!

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

    (I think I just found a quote for my avatar!!! THANKS China!!!!)
     
    sues2nd, Aug 28, 2007
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  13. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Resumes do not dictate P4P lists, it is a fact.


    Lets do some dimensional analysis.

    The only two dimensions involved in the term P4P by definition are "weight" and "how good the fighter is" you combine these two dimensions and come up with the list.
     
    China_hand_Joe, Aug 28, 2007
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  14. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    Could you just stick to the comedy please....:patsch
     
    sues2nd, Aug 28, 2007
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  15. Lance_Uppercut

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    Right now? I would say he has a 50-50 shot, leaning towards Hopkins. You can point to Joe's swarming style all you want. But you need to realize he may very well get discourage by Hopkin's counters. Age doesn't seem to have affected Hopkin's defense, and that's crucial. He may bot have one punch power, but Hopkins is a VERY hard and accurate hitter. And might I remind you, Joe C has no defense.
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Aug 28, 2007
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