i want everyone to observe the posters who think hops won...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Illmatic, Apr 21, 2008.


  1. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    these are the same people who thought Hopkins was "ROBBED" against Taylor twice b/c he did great in one late round and despite the fact he didnt throw a combination until round 6.

    He's got you all fooled. He's a legend, but throwing 3 punches a round and fouling does not win you rounds.

    All those I was talking about, save the bull**** cuz I'll say your argument for you.

    "But Hops was making them look bad, and they were missing all over the place!"

    Alright, now back to reality. You win rounds by throwing punches, not clinching and dodging punches. This isn't some WilliePep ****- winning rounds w/o throwing a punch. You have to actually try to win rounds by using those appendages hanging from the side of your torso.
     
  2. kungfu

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    AMEN! Let this be the end of this dumb argument!!!
     
  3. superchile

    superchile Well-Known Member Full Member

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  4. skier47

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    Hops fought well for four rounds and then got outworked and outclassed. BTW who is that guy in your avatar? I gots to know.
     
  5. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nas' first album- Illmatic
     
  6. johnny5

    johnny5 Member Full Member

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    Thank god...a voice of reason!
     
  7. thewoo

    thewoo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The outrage over this fight is not anything like it was after the taylor fights. There was a lot more people on hear crying robbery after those.
     
  8. Taylex

    Taylex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Smart guy. I respect BHOP for his genius but I want entertainment and throwing a couple of punches each round and then headbutting followed by holding just aint gangstar! JC came to fight and wanted to trade. BHOP came to fake low blows becuase he was tired from JC workrate.
     
  9. Napoleon

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    I didn't read all of your post, but I though Hopkins won against Taylor in the second fight, but lost to Calzaghe. I didn't see the first Taylor fight yet.
     
  10. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Hopkins ever got outclassed. He's a great champion, but he definitely got out-thought. I think he underestimated Calzaghe's ability to adapt. The first few rounds were rough for Calzaghe, but just like the Kessler fight, he adapted and loosened up, and it was his fight from that point on. Hopkins looked frustrated and, I thought, kind of perplexed, like he didn't understand how the fight had shifted from his fight to Calzaghe's fight. The 'cup' episode was a pretty desperate attempt to get Calzaghe out of his rhythm, which worked, but only for that round.
     
  11. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with most of what you said....but Hop isn't a pretty kind of fighter...He is a technican and he may not be a busy fighter but given his age I'd say he is pretty active. In his hay day Hope threw a lot more but with his advanced age he's slowed and conserved a bit more. Did he beat Joe....NO!:-( But he did make it a very close competive fight and he had Joe on his ass. I agree that Bhop isn't a crowd pleaser but he is a very intelligent fighter and it showed against Joe. He really did have Joe out of his rythm and working on figuring the old man out. This was a TRUE CHESS MATCH. You can see both men working on figuring one anther out during the fight and the subbtle ring tactics were all worth my 1 and a half. Most thought the fight was boring but I saw true science by both men.
     
  12. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins has the type of style where if you watch him only once, you think he isn't doing that well. But watch his fight a 2nd or 3rd time and you start to see what he means when he says, "I was the better fighter".

    Really, the fight was close. Hopkins threw less but he landed the consistently harder shots. That's not to say Calzaghe didn't land some flush shots as he clearly did later in the fight, but Hopkins was consistently landing the cleaner and harder shots in a fight where there weren't too many clean punches.

    And oh yeah, i think i might know why Byrd gave Hopkins the win. When Hopkins came in, he threw a lot of body shots and some of them were thudding. And then he would clinch. Kind of hard to notice in real time but watch it again and he got in some hard body shots.

    As with the two JT fights along with the Calzaghe fight, Hopkins might've technically lost based on how boxing is scored but he was the better fighter from an overall perspective in all three fights.
     
  13. skier47

    skier47 Guest

    Thanks. I'll hunt some of his performances down on Youtube.
     
  14. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just to show Im not a Hops hater, I wrote abut that cover for Rings top 10 covers of all time:

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]What’s So Important About This Issue? Just three years before this issue was published, Hopkins was one of boxing hidden gems. A tireless and ageless champion, Hopkins first gained glory in 2001 with a knockout of unbeaten superstar Felix Trinidad, and reached an apex by being the first man to knock out boxing’s “Golden Boy,” Oscar De La Hoya in 2004 at the age of 39. With a picture of Hopkins leaping into the air in a sudden rush of exhilaration, the cover perfectly signified that all of Hopkins’ dreams have come to fruition, and he has become a legend.[/FONT]

    [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Cover Story: By chronicling Hopkins’ difficult rise from “the penitentiary to the pinnacle of his profession,” Nigel Collins’ article, “A Legend In Our Midst: Hopkins Dismantles De La Hoya With Subtle Brilliance,” revealed a fighter that turned tragedy into triumph and works tirelessly with a hunger for glory. While De La Hoya’s career has had all the glitz and glamour of a Hollywood movie, Hopkins busted in through the back door of superstardom. For instance, Collins writes that “De La Hoya never had to defend his title for $100,000 on ESPN, or find a storefront lawyer to defend him against a high-priced team of attorneys.” But, as Collins concludes, “Hopkins will always be more of a fighter than a star. And once the bells ring, that’s what really counts.”[/FONT]
     
  15. Taylex

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    I respect BHOP for his genius but I want entertainment and throwing a couple of punches each round and then headbutting followed by holding just aint gangstar! JC came to fight and wanted to trade. BHOP came to fake low blows becuase he was tired from JC workrate.