I Want to Become a Slickster

Are you saying that static stretching after a workout doesn't help reduce lactic acid or anything like that which I got told at school?? Are there no physical benefits to stretching after a work out (other than the benefits you would get from static stretching when independent of a workout).

On a seperate note what are your qualifications/experience in the sports science field. Not to be confrontational just curious you come across as very knowledgeable.

 

After a workout static stretching won't do anything for lactic acid, keeping your limbs held in one position (especially isometrically) is going to impair the process of flushing away metabolic byproducts if anything. Light movement, a cool down is the best thing in that regard, along with things like contrast therapy and compression garments. The only benefit from static stretching after a workout that you might not get from an independent session is that since you're already warmed up you'll be more compliant and you may be able to increase your flexibility further than you could otherwise, the plastic changes may be longer lasting. I have an MSc in a related field and professional experience with sporting teams/elite athletes.

 

I don't know you from a bar of soap, I said that saying boxing skills are 1000% independent from other activities was moronic.
We're on the same page, I'm not saying to do those things instead of boxing, I'm saying add those things on top of your training and you'll improve your ability to be slick. I don't know what gave you the impression that I was saying to do yoga instead of boxing.

 

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I remember reading a boxing book and there is a quote from a qualified doctor in it and a sports scientist who said scrap knows far more than some of his colleagues....

just throwing that out there in a suitably vague, scrap like manner

 

:thumbsup didn't realise that, one of them things I heard and just assumed it was true. Plastic changes??

Do you work with any boxers?

p.s. do you reckon it would be possible to perform any kind of useful contrast therapy using a shower sometime after training??

 

The VR continues to change lives. Latest good new story below !

(Please note: The system used in this video is a prototype and should not be taken for a final product)

A 42 year old man who has spent the last ten years unable to work due to a serious injury incurred at work when a 7.5 ton excavator bucket was dropped on his head.

Major trauma to his body, no breaks, but all the fluid lost from virtually every joint in his body.

12 months later he returned to work part time suffering agony with every step and had a further accident when a forklift dropped a tree on him, flattening him and doing further damage to his muscles.

10 years of seeking medical support and interventions. None have helped his pain, or improved his ability to walk. Physios, Hydrotherapy, Acupuncture were non effective, only pain medication and sleeping tablets helped him.

In those ten years he has been unable to walk without the support of a stick, has not been able to work, play with his children or live what he terms, a mans life. His goal was simple, go back to work to support his family and play football with his 10 year old son for the 1st time.

Two weeks ago he arrived and began a sometimes punishing programme on the verti-run and a stretch programme.

The results speak for themselves, this man is now walking with a normal stride pattern, has regained much of his core stability and muscle strength and no longer needs a walking stick.

There is still alot of work for him to do, it will take many more weeks of hard work for him to fully recover from years of agony, but he is now able to return to his family in Scotland with a daily stretch and exercise programme that will see him return to work and play that all important game of footie !

The Verti-Run changes lives, that is a very happy fact.

 

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Plastic as in the structure of the muscles, changing the resting length. No, boxing is a very niche sport where I'm from, no money or real interest in it. Yeah you can do contrast therapy in the shower and it will be effective to an extent, probably not quite as effective as going in 12 degree water though.

 

Looks like an advertisement for a low impact rehab machine. Good luck with your hustle, I hope whoever is flogging these things advises the users to include more impact work once they're better to avoid osteoporosis. I don't understand how this relates to what we were talking about, stretching was the topic. It doesn't relate to athletes either, there's studies showing that doing the same exercise standing up and lying down only helps with the position you trained in, I'd expect that to be the same with this vertirun. I'd expect it to cause injuries in athletes more than anything, you're avoiding working the hamstrings eccentrically and a lack of eccentric hamstring strength is known to be the biggest risk factor for hamstring injuries.

 

Thankfully its the reverse of what you think, I was referring How the guy with the Stretch program recovered in 10 days like many others.

 

What guy with a stretch program? It was a guy on a vertical treadmill. Wouldn't it be a lovely world if you could be rehabbed by stretching, it doesn't and never will happen though.
If you're making claims about the vertirun you need to do everything on that to prove something, including another variable just makes what you're doing unscientific. Stretching has been shown almost conclusively to show little rehab benefits, if you're including stretching into your thesis you're just undermining any positive results you might get from the vertirun.

 

Just had 5 years of Tests on the thing, with stunning results, the biggest sports company in the world are in talks. Stretching in the wrong Hands like anything can be Harmful. in the right Hands it can be very beneficial, in any Testing its about the protocol, its a grey area. But theres just as much evidence for, as there is against, theres 2 camps of thought. I understand that, and realise which you are in, no Harm done . At this time, im busy repairing 2 Sports Dr, 3 Sports Therapists and a Ballerina, they thing Stretching is wonderful, as do the hundreds of Elite Athletes Ive worked with.

 

Can you explain that in more dumbed down terms please mate. I'm pretty clueless on alot of this stuff but I'm trying to learn.

How would you go about contrast therapy with a shower? Two mins hot then sudden cold for a minute repeated 5 times or so?