i have hope for Toney, he just has to lose a few pounds...maybe a little more than a few pounds...ok about 40 pounds....:verysad I'd love to see him aginst a striker would be fun to watch.
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl So as long as he keeps getting taken down and pounded to **** while never landing a punch, you'll maintain that he can beat everyone except the guys who have already beaten him down?
Toney is cut from the UFC and he couldnt beat anyone anyway in the UFC. Toney is a fat stationary target to get taken down, submitted or having his face pounded in. Toneys grappling skills was down right embarrassing. Toney was like a beached whale when he was taken down.
I wouldn't mind seeing Pat Barry or an unretired Hardonk permanently ruin Toney's legs with kicks. What I really want is Mir to take him down and break something; not just break it, but like a compound fracture with the bone sticking out, or a heel hook, shredding every tendon in his knee. Or Lesnar, who would not be so kind as to go for the choke.
no I'm serious, toney was never a big puncher in boxing and power is something you're born with or not, not to mention chuck has a ton of ko's on his resume
Are you crazy???? did you see the shape tony was in ? he's lucky randy took pitty on him... Had tony been with a real submission or mui tie fighter he could have been seriously injured.. Tony is a heart beat away from getting injured in boxing, the only thing saving him from getting hurt in boxing is lack of talent in boxing. In the ufc he will not be so lucky .. Tony was fat at 236, even if randy didn't submit him I doubt tony's gas tank would have taken him to the distance.
I don't want to see him against a striker. He would get ****ed up by a good striker. He isn't taking it seriously. At striking he would be tough and slick but at 237 pounds he would get his legs kicked to ****. For a boxer to face grapplers or strikers who will kick him he needs to be mobile. Generally, no matter what martial artist a boxer is facing they need good footwork. Footwork in boxing can be argued as the best. The side to side, in out, switching stances, pivoting etc is all very hard to track down if done right. Toney at 160-168 was mobile but then he just got more flat footed as he got fatter. Luckily he had the slickness and toughness to do it but he still lost to **** fighters like Peter and Rahman just from activity. It was embarassing.