I want to see Ruiz vs Haye

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Imperial1, Dec 13, 2009.


  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Is their something wrong with me ?I honestly beleive this version of the QUIET MAN has a chance ..And I can't stand him !

    Discuss !
     
  2. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    Nothing wrong with you at all. Its intruiging in its own way. I would much rather see Vitaly against either, but I think your right that it would be a competative bout.
     
  3. MemoCan

    MemoCan *****49ers Express***** Full Member

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    Ruiz has a decent chin, decent power, comes to fight, and has good experience, less limited and far more skilled than Valuev, and has only been KO once-and that was by tua. Furthermore, I personally thought he beat Valuev but got robbed-but than again a lot of other fighters have. However, his 37 and his been in some rugged fights, and since 2005 hasn't fought anyone decent besides Tony and Chageav. I think this will be Haye's stiffest challenge yet, but he should the favorite-but I certainly think Ruiz can make it interesting.
     
  4. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Haye has no Chin and is mentally fragile. But he should have no problems with a skill less joke like Ruiz. This is going to be a boring awful fight that nobody wants to see. Doubt Haye will grapple with Ruiz he will probably just throw 11.9 punches a round and beat Ruiz on points.

    I can see no scenario where Ruiz wins this fight. He has one proper KO this entire decade. One. He has no power. None.

    Haye should school him but for some reason I think he will be careful with Ruiz.
     
  5. Ted Stickles

    Ted Stickles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Your not alone ,i think the same thing nad its because of Hayes chin......wow its something when we are saying John Ruiz has a good chance at winning this one hahaha
     
  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I can't wait lol.
     
  7. Predicto

    Predicto Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Definately Ruiz has a chance... But I'm sure I'm not alone in praying to see a repeat of the Tua knock-out. :dead

    I think Haye can pull it off. :bbb
     
  8. uglyandproud7

    uglyandproud7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it'll be pretty dull but I def give Ruiz a good shot at winning. I expect Haye to run away the entire time and hope for the hometown scores in his favor.
     
  9. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Haye owns the judges and referee, but you never know.
     
  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Decent chin? Yeah, that's why he got starched by Tua!

    Decent power? Yeah, that's why he has only KOd tomato cans, and even then only TKOs! And don't give me that questionable stoppage against glass jawed fringe contender Oquendo either.

    Comes to fight? Only if you call excessive holding or faking low blows "fighting." I call it disgraceful.

    All boxing fans should root hard for Haye to knock him cold, and end his disgraceful and fraudulent stain on the HW division.
     
  11. MemoCan

    MemoCan *****49ers Express***** Full Member

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    Yes I thought I made it salient that he got starched by Tua, but **** sake man a lot of people would be starched by Tua if they got hit-to say otherwise is rather asinine :lol:. So there is no shame in that (being KO by Tua), and whether you like it or not that was his only loss via TKO or KO-so you trying to nit pick that argument is a bit of stretch my friend:lol::good. Again nobody stating his chin is granite:!:, but decent enough to have kept him in fights-and not implicitly bad as you suggest. Obviously you have clear bias against Ruiz, so whether I try to argue to points is rather irrelevant, since your mind is already made up and you hate the guy as much you hate Z-haters:yep

    But I think your missing the general point my friend-that I don't think that Haye can take Ruiz lightly-because he can still do enough to present problems for Haye and I think is stiffer challenge that Bonin, Barret or Valuev. I expect Haye to win, and your absolutely right beating Ruiz would be 10x better for the division.
     
  12. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Well, in the sense that no one should take anyone lightly, I would agree with you. Even limited fighters like Ruiz can cause problems in the ring - in Ruiz's case, mostly by cheating in various ways.

    Barrett and Valuev are pretty much at the same level as Ruiz, and Barrett at his best probably had more boxing ability. And at least they fight within the rules.
     
  13. Sai

    Sai Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would definitely do a bit for Haye's name: Ruiz is a name, but doesn't realistically pose much of a threat to Haye at this point in time and would very likely get banged out of there pretty quickly.

    Not only would this get the mando out of the way, it should also pour a bit of fuel onto the fire with regards to making a lucrative fight against a Klit, which lets face it, is what we all want to see hater/hugger alike.
     
  14. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think ruiz has an excellent shot. his 'inside game' could take away hayes power. on the other hand, haye could rid of us ruiz for once and for all.....
     
  15. Charlie Z

    Charlie Z Don't hurt me Oleg Full Member

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    HELL NA any fight involved with john ruiz i dont wanna see it LOL