"I want to Thank God for helping me win...."

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  1. buddynabuick

    buddynabuick Active Member Full Member

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  2. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great stuff. After Ray reclaimed the title from Fullmer he was adamant that it was prayers that made him victorious.

    I for one, do not like when analysts and the intelligensia (usually guys whose bellies are as puffed up as their sense of self-importance) criticize or mock fighters for acknowledging their God before, during, and/or after a bout.

    First of all, the vast majority of fighters are from poverty or disadvantaged backgrounds. Whether or not anyone agrees with the premise, Christianity is a religion that lifts the poor up. The attraction between the poor and christianity is historical and sensible.

    Forget the faith factor, the christian paradigm brings two things to its followers -hope and meaning. Now consider what the boxer does for a living -boxing is dangerous, frightening, and the stakes are literally life and death. Boxing is humbling. And it takes great faith to step into that ring. Faith in one's self is necessary but for many it is simply not enough because it is truly a theatre of unpredictability. Things happen that are far beyond your control. So a boxer chooses to put his fate into the hands of something greater.

    Therefore, at a primal level, his faith and bravery increases.

    A boxer stands before force and hostility, naked and alone. He makes the sign of the cross in the name of someone who also stood before force and hostility, naked and alone.

    I began to appreciate this for what it was back in November of 1983 when I watched Duran and Hagler staring at each other from opposite corners before the first bell rang. I was thinking to myself, "damn, Duran is in trouble. He's a damn LW and is completely outgunned by Hagler." Then I saw Duran, who looked like the devil, make the sign of the cross just as the bell rang. Duran himself felt the need to put his safety into the hands of something greater.

    The courage of all boxers is something that we all respect. Where they find that courage should be respected too.
     
  3. KTFO

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    That's a damn easy question.
    ...........because you still get a good payday while you lose. :good :rofl
     
  4. Archie_Moore

    Archie_Moore ALL TIME KO KING Full Member

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    Just because cultures have LEGENDS that they pass on from generation to generation doesn't mean they are true. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

    In our culture we tell our children about Santa Clause, so does that mean that Santa is real? Or how about the Easter Bunny?

    Did Noah put him on the Ark?

    Just because a bone isn't fossilized doesn't mean that they can't tell how old it is. Have you heard of Carbon Dating? If not look it up. Fossilization doesn't only occur because something is really old it occurs because of the enviroment that it is in. :good :hi:

    It's funny that you should bring up the Nazi's, because they used most of the propaganda to justify killing the Jews from Religious text (Martin Luther). More people have died in the name of God and Religion then anything else in the history of the world combind.

    And you are trying to tell me religion is good? The facts say otherwise.

    P.S. Don't avoid any of these questions, answer them one by one like I did with yours... please :good
     
  5. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah back at ay. I been at a junk yard for two days removing 10 big tires--depressing-- but no problem this will be easy.

    I would like to see you try to dismiss oral tradition in front of certain Africans, American Indians, Australian aborigines, etc... Although the stories are often cryptic, accurate history can be deciphered. You definately need to read Red Earth, White lies. http://www.wwco.com/~dda/redearth.php Did you know that the Alaska Department of Conservation uses oral tradition as the basis for animal reintroductions? http://www.adn.com/outdoors/story/6241029p-6117115c.html

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  6. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: Why do you two think they use c14 is used on Dinosaurs?
     
  10. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,268081,00.html Hows this one?:lol:
     
  11. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmmm I am getting strange messages from the administrator. ha ha ha Ban me I don't care!
     
  12. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good Aman !!!!
     
  13. DonPrestige

    DonPrestige Active Member Full Member

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    What people dont seem to realise is that Boxing is an organised sport whereas being in gang isnt. Therefore thanking God that you beat someone in competition is not hypocricy.

    Also People who believe in God believe he is omnipotent.
     
  14. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    "If you believe there is no God you better be right"
    I believe there is a God, I know there is one. I believe there is a heaven and a hell. I have no problem with a fighter thanking God for whateva. Who are we to get upset over that. They can be thankin him for n e thing. its prolly not 4 a victory evrytime. I seen many fighters thank God even in a lost. I dont see what the big problem. If they want to thank God then so be it.
     
  15. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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