I want your opinions, Whyte's left hook vs Wilder's right hand

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  1. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    https://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-privacy-notice

    I don’t see any confidentiality clause that’d prevent Whyte from speaking up if he was innocent.

    When a fighter tests positive, they either appeal against the result, or they ask for the B sample to be opened or they make an excuse(such as contaminated meat or drink, or prescribed pills etc.).

    Whyte didn’t do any of that. He’s not even bothered to deny that he cheated(and FYI, saying that “I was cleared to fight” is definetly not denying the wrong-doing). So I don’t see why I should believe otherwise.
     
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  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Lol that page on privacy notice and what you are thinking in terms of privacy are not the same loooooool

    Go look up NADP hearing which is the results handling process UKAD uses and how strict they are on confidentiality regarding all adverse findings

    that page has nada to do with our conversation
     
  3. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both guys punch very hard One with left the other with the right.
    I was very upset when Wilder ducked his no1 in Whyte would have been a great fight.
     
  4. JordanK2406

    JordanK2406 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilders right hand and it ain’t even close. That’s punch just can’t be stopped it seems
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Why isnt it close? Have you seen Whytes left hook
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Yeah but who's he fought?
     
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  7. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Whytes left hook is more damaging if he hits you perfect with it. The thing is wilder hits guys with flush right hands ,people act like they die ior don't get up ,all are false ,bc even Ortiz got up ,so its a all nonsense really. Damaging however is not blunt stopping ability.

    Wilder doesn't need to be perfect hes often inaccurate /less clean ...just needs to land it straight or through an opponents guard with enough room to generate that snapping force.

    You will see more Wilder knockouts bc he is 6'7 and has a speed advantage which makes it easier .

    Setting up left hooks is harder then right hands bc left hooks from a shorter guys requires to cover much more distance .

    If you got hit with the left hook Parker got hit with by Whyte vs the right hand Breazeale got hit with from Wilder ,the harder punch is probably Wilder ,he has had a running start and a mile long distance that generated force and speed that Whytes left hook didn't ,even though more weight was behind Whytes punch it was just compact with great technique .

    However if you got hit with Whytes best left hook as much as Wilders right hand not so sure one will take as many of Whytes shots as Wilders .


    Wilders best guy he was able to floor having a proven chin was Breazeale.
    Wilders best knockout ( REAL K.O ) is Stiverne . He was out of boxing for 2 yrs.

    Whytes best guy he knocked down with proven chin was Parker
    Whytes best knockout was Chisora ( much more proven ) !

    What does this mean ? It means the edge goes to Whyte while lacking consistency with K.O wins but that's also bc he actually wins rounds with boxing and also fought better if not near equal opposition that may bring his K.O percentage down .Whye is also a two hand threat bc his body attacks are consistent and can debilitate many guys with body shots.

    Theres way to many Wilder knockouts with the right to say Whyte has the harder shot ,but i beleive his left is able to do more damage to a fighter. Damage to me is really taking the enery out of someone and physically swelling them up etc....far to many guys have got up from Wilder and only 2 were unable to get up in his title fights to say hes the more damaging puncher .

    More fights will definatley give a more difinitive answer when they happen
     
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  8. sid

    sid Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This^^^
     
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  9. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Breazeale took 7rds of poweshots from Joshua before the mercy stoppage. Wilder took him out in one
    A younger, fresher Chisora got brutally koed in 5 by Haye yet it took Whyte 11 brutal rds + a hail Mary left hook to knock Chisora out.

    Wilder's right is the more powerful shot,
    imo.
     
  10. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    lmao haye brutally kod chisora? Why did Chisora get up quick then?

    what does brutal even mean to you?
     
  11. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you actually looked up the NADP hearing, you would’ve seen that the outcome, once a final decision is made, would be publicly announced with the fighter’s consent. So you think Whyte was cleared, but he asked for it to be remain kept from the public so that he could clear his name? lol talk about being a gullible fanboy.

    https://www.google.com.tr/amp/s/tal...die-hearn-exclusive-dillian-whyte-banned/amp/

    And here you go, directly from Hearn’s mouth. He says that there’s huge confidentiality, until they recieved the news. So once they received an official decision, Whyte and Hearn could’ve easily made it public.

    Finally, also regarding the NADP hearing, It is specified that a decision would be made within 15 working days.

    https://www.maxboxing.com/news/news...-what-is-an-nadp-hearing-and-how-does-it-work

    So, assuming that they applied for the NADP hearing right after the fight, a decision would’ve been made 5 months ago. That is 5 months that they could’ve publicly announced Whyte’s innocency if It was really the case(which it obviously isn’t). lol indeed
     
  12. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Right, so you believe UKAD and those at the NADP hearing have been paid off to keep silent?

    Is this your argument? Well to each their own
     
  13. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    If you compare the damage done when landed then Whyte's is harder cause guys go to sleep and need to be carried out..

    Wilder has only done that to "Iron Jaw" Artur Szpilka otherwise they are either pounded into submission or try to beat the count like Ortiz and Breazeale did.

    Wilder is more likely to connect with his right than Whyte with his hook so its far more valuable to him and as a weapon..
     
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  14. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, that’s not my argument, that’s you clutching at straws. I specifically said that the confidentiality would be over once a final decision is made. And considering that It takes NADP 15 working days to come to a decision, the confidentiality that you speak of would’ve been over 5 months ago.

    So you actually believe that Whyte had 5 months to publicly announce his innocence, yet for no reason whatsoever, without any confidentiality agreement, chose to stay quiet?

    As you said, each to their own.
     
  15. blackfella96

    blackfella96 Active Member Full Member

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    Wilder's right hand by a mile. Whyte's best hook comes in after fighters have taking a great deal of punishment and also seem exhausted, which is the best time to throw it. He only has 3 fights that ended in the 1st round.
    Wilder's right hand no matter when it lands, really rocks you.

    If Wilder lands a flush right hand on the guys you listed then I believe they going down.
     
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