I want your opinions, Whyte's left hook vs Wilder's right hand

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  1. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    so to sum it all up from your end, what do you believe happened exactly? In as few words as possible please
     
  2. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What I believe with all the reports and interviews after the fight and the silence ever since is that the B sample also came back positive so there was no need for any hearing. Hearn just hoped that It would be swept under the carpet by BBCofC just like in the case of Fury and forgotten in time.
     
  3. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    but why would the BBBoC sweep it under the carpet?

    UKAD refers the positive finding to NADP hearing and the BBBoC enforce any outcome of the hearing

    thats a lot of people in the loop

    how in earth did this get covered up? By so many people?

    UKAD must enforce 8 year ban for second offenses... who do you think got paid off with bribes?

    Same reports that say adverse finding say a hearing was held same day as rivas fight
     
  4. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why did BBCofC hide Fury’s positive test for the Hammer fight? Why is Eric Molina who’s banned by UKAD fighting on the same undercard as Whyte? Why didn’t Toney, Teper, Tarver, Povetkin, Browne(a two time offender) face any serious suspension? Why does Bob Arum want to sign Jarrell Miller who’s also a two time offender and hasn’t even banned yet? Who got paid in any of those cases.

    You want to pretend like corruption doesn’t exist?
     
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  5. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Im asking you very simply to explain the theory you choose to believe in

    corruption obviously exists but like with most corruption cases you tie up loose ends and it involves very direct lines of contact between those involved/culpable

    So its clear you just want to be a sheep and follow the mainstream in yelling UKAD is corrupt without even trying to break it down for me or yourself

    i can respect explanations even if they are silly but i cant respect blind beliefs and “its corruption bro... trust me... its corruption and bribery”

    Thats just ignorance.. Whyte aint some billionaire to bribe the chain of people involved in a supposed scandal to cover up his positive finding

    In my opinion its just not plausible.. maybe if it was just 3 people who knew about it but not if there are dozens in the loop ... where some get bribed and the rest dint get bribe and just stay silent?

    repercussion are huge to cover something like this up by ukad bbboc or the NADP panel
     
  6. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What do you mean by portion of testing from VADA ? You don't look for limited amounts of what is in the blood or specified substances ,you either are found to have something or not on a banned list and some do test positive from faulty things in other products ask Molina with UKAD.

    VADA is not involved with anything related to another test bc they cleared whyte ?

    You aren't allowed to speak on the case pending ,going silent has nothing to do with guilt its in the own UKAD confidentiality rules in its own system ?

    The result was appealed that's why its ongoing ? What ? lol

    Besides that UKAD had its own hearing prior to the fight with Rivas ,based on that itself hes already cleared unless they prove a B Sample is also tainted or prove it isn't which again having ANOTHER testing agency VADA clearing him is going to be hard to do bc both tests show a time period one would have to wrong ,which one ? lol Because if its VADA why test then and interfere with ? Whytes standings if your own WBC testing is inferior ?

    That means others can pass WBC drug tests ,i already have a good clue who that is, lol….but besides that when its traces amounts of something it usually a sign of contamination, large amount of anything to take effect to jeopardize millions of dollars for Whyte would be more probable ,why would he have traces when hes in 2 testing agencies with a drug/steroid that wouldn't work over night,that steroid takes a little bit of time that he tested positive for ? .
     
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  7. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry, but the only one who wants to be a sheep with blind blief is you.

    You brought up NAPD, then I explained to you that their hearing lasts 15 working days, then they let the fighter or the promoter know. After that, confidentiality is over, fighter/promoter are entirely free to go public. It’s up to them to tie up the loose ends, but they choose to remain quiet.

    Whyte isn’t a billionare, neither is Teper, neither is Browne, neither is Miller, neither is Molina, or Tarver. Those are ACTUAL CASES where fighters cheated and got away with a slap in the wrist. How are the other cases plausible in your opinion?

    And It isn’t just about UKAD, so don’t try to turn this into some nationalistic garbage.
     
  8. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This post makes very little sense, but from what I can gather, a portion of the testing means one agency does the urine testing, the other does the blood testing. That’s why only one having negative results isn’t enough.

    And the only reason Whyte was cleared to fight was because BBCofC’s idiotic regulation: innocent until B sample is opened. So Whyte could’ve been roided to his eyeballs with all the anabolic steroid, he would’ve still been cleared to fight.

    And if It really was because contamination, we would’ve heard it by now. In cases like that with Canelo, Stiverne, Vargas, they claimed that it was due to contamination within days.
     
  9. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    all this thread tells me is these 2 need to duke it out, to determine who has the stronger punch lol
     
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  10. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is lamo the best rebuttal you can come up with? I dont even like overrated Haye one bit but the facts are that he smoked a young, hungry Chisora much faster than Whyte. And to top it off, Whyte went life and death with a faded, grandpa semi retired version.
    Now stick that lmao back in the hole it came out of.
     
  11. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Wilder's right hand. He can clobber like Sam Peter who usually landed shots on the head. Or he can use laser-giude like Lewis with an accurate shot right down the pipe.

    Rarely does a str8 shooter land a clubbing shot. And rarely does a clubber land a str8 shot. Wilder has stopped foes using both windmill and laser-guided shots.
     
  12. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Wilder's right. That punch has floored everyone he's been in the ring with. It's had guys having convulsions on the floor. He's iced guys without it even landing that cleanly. Whyte's left hook is real good, best left hook in the division now that Povetkin is at the end of his career, but there isn't a single punch that compares to Wilder's right hand purely in terms of power. Not one. The left that iced Chisora was a lovely shot but it was right at the end of the fight and Chisora was blowing hard. Still an excellent KO and shows it was a damn good shot but that alone doesn't suddenly put it in the conversation with Wilder's right. Plus, Chisora had been KO'd before so it's not like no one has ever done it. I don't put much stock in the Browne KO, he looked absolutely garbage in that fight. He was dropped by Sokolowski after...
     
  13. lefthook82

    lefthook82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People are actually taking this seriously

    Of course it is Wilder

    Whyte's left hook iced Browne (the same guy stopped by Dave fcking Allen) and Chisora 2 but his left hook didn't do anything in the first Chisora fight which many thought he lost and he sure landed it enough. Who else has he damaged with his famed left hook.

    His claim to fame is still the left he landed on AJ in the fight where he lost every round before getting patrick trumaned.
     
  14. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Is this some sick joke? Wilder all day long.
     
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  15. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

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    Then how did the grandpa KO takam? Which young prime champ AJ couldnt do? The grandson

    go back in your hole excuse maker

    Whyte hurt Parker more than AJ.. he beat Rivas convincingly... you are just full of excuses

    and tom little sparred aj and whyte last week and said from what he felt Whyte would beag AJ

    so pipe down

    LMAO