I was rewatching the Dawson vs Adamek fight, seeing if Chad was indeed a Taylor twin

Adamek's power is clearly better at Cruiserweight, which is why his KO % is better there despite fighting the better fighters. Why should that play into the calculation when that's not the Adamek that Dawson fought?

Pavlik's and Froch's KO numbers play into it plenty considering I only used the percentages from the fights at the weight they fought Taylor. Granted, KO %'s are not the end all, be all, but it's a good starting place. George Foreman inflated his knockout % against a shitload of bums, but it was still a pretty damn good indicator of the level of punching power he brought to the table, for example.

 

What I am saying is that they don't possess the punching power that Pavlik and Froch do for their respective weight classes. The numbers speak for themselves- I already showed you that Glen Johnson only has 6 KO's in 18 LHW fights. Harding's knocked out 7 guys in 28 fights. Tarver's a bit better with 19 KO's in 33 fights, but he had only KO'd one guy since Roy Jones II.

What Adamek's done 25 lbs higher than the LHW class has no relevence to the one that fought Dawson.

 

i just think you have an agenda here.. you being one of the biggest Calslappy nuthuggers on the site.

what's your final verdict? Is Dawson anything like Jermain Taylor?

 

So that's what it's come to- people will argue that Dawson's faced the same level of puncher Taylor has and when the numbers don't support that, it must be because there's a Joe Calzaghe "agenda"? Funny you'd say that since I've said multiple times I want Joe to fight Dawson and am still disappointed it didn't happen.

In my opinion, there are similarities between Dawson and Taylor and how they tend to lose focus at times and can't go 12 hard rounds. Those are the big reasons, along with being a magnet for the lead right, that I don't think Dawson would beat either Hopkins or Calzaghe right now. That's also why I think Chad should think long and hard about fighting someone who goes a hard 12 like Sakio Bika or Librado Andrade to help fix that.

And if you're going to hold being a big Calzaghe fan as a taunt, at least get it accurate- unlike fans who root for one fighter, I'm a downright slut when it comes to the number of boxers I root for. Calzaghe's one of many- you put your eggs in just one basket, he retires, and you're out of luck. Calzaghe just happened to be the lightning rod for the most entertaining debates, and it's refreshing to know he's still getting under people's skin :deal

 

Good post...only people who are nitpickers and reachers see any comparison, IMO.

 

If Dawson were to fight Adamek in a rematch, I would pick Adamek to knock him out, no doubt about it.

 

Knockouts that came against WHO, that is the biggest part of the equations.

I think its a simple of case of Bute, Kessler and Pavlik fans bashing the kid. I have done some checking of past threads and post and that is what I have found. Those posters that like or favor those fighters are most of the ones bashing Dawson.

 

So do not make threads if somebody's opinion hurts/pisses off you a lot. Damn ...

I would like to see the rematch too. Dawson dominated Adamek in their fight, he would be doing it in second fight too... until Adamek knock him out - only if the fight is at 200lbs limit. At 175 Dawson would outbox him again.

I also agree what you wrote above, also I don't deny that Dawson is worse than Adamek, but one sudden punch could finish the bout. You never know... Dawson combos and frequency of making punches is bigger than Adamek's fur sure, but his punches do nothing to him, thus I'd count on KO. Compare Adamek's face after Briggs II, and after Dawson fight and take a look then consider if I'm wrong.

To everything was clear, altho I'm a fan of Adamek... I appreciate Dawson and I think he's got better skills than Tomasz. But there's one thing that is Adamek's advantage - his heart.

 

chad who?

you know you've made it on esb when you are known only by one name.ladies and gentlemen please welcome danny rand!!

i was rewatching the johnson fight my laughter has still not subsided.

it reminded me of days of yore when my GRANDAD would chastise me for stealing an apple.

 

Let's not pretend that going through Tarver's, Eric Harding's (no idea why anyone defending punching power would bring him up), Glen Johnson's, and Adamek's LHW record is like going through Spinks or Matthew Saad Muhammed's, either. The fact is all of them had some pretty good skills, and if they could punch harder or were better finishers at LHW, they'd have had more knockouts at that weight

Given how most people love to rip on Froch and Pavlik from a skill perspective, it seems a bit haterish to not give them the proper credit for one thing they do well- and that's packing a punch. The numbers and the footage back that up.

 

I strongly agree

 

Me either. If JT was leading Froch during the fight, why Chad can't ? I guess he's a bit smarter and wouldn't let to be KOed in last round. I think Chad would school him.