I was starting to seriously lose interest in MMA but...

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by boxingcar, Feb 13, 2011.


  1. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't watch mma as much as i used to...different fighters...some more interesting than others but the magic isn't there anymore....Well...that's what i thought before the Grand Prix...

    But now that this format is back. (i've been waiting for this **** since Pride's Grand prix competitions)...Now that they're finally doing these elimination contests...I'll make sure to follow the whole thing...i'm already hyped for the final.

    MMA without grand prix is like tennis without the australian , US or french open...or without wimbledon...it's fun , adds suspense and the fans truely enjoy it. (at least i do)
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    If someone likes MMA, how can you actually lose interest in it. I know you can get frustrated or a little uninspired but how can you lose interest.

    Tennis, F1 etc is so ****ing **** in comparison. This generation is a bunch of ****ing pansys watching football or tough guy wannabes who roll around in groups trying to act tough but don't have a scooby about real fighting.
     
  3. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the way they handle some of these match ups....It's just annoying. When a UFC card is on, i'm mostly interested by the main event (the final match) and that's it. I don't like the ridiculous ways they use to select their match ups.

    Typical example...

    Lesnar Loses against Mir , Then
    Lesnar beats Herring , Then...
    Instant title shot against Couture.

    Or
    Couture loses against Liddell & retires...then...
    Couture comes out of retirement Then...
    Couture gets instant title shot vs Sylvia.

    Or the opposit...fighters who have to wait longer than others for a title shot.

    it happened to Machida...(but since he kept winning they had no choice)
    it's happening to Okami...

    Or the fighters who get kicked out....

    Werdum loses against Arlovski...Then...
    Beats Gonzaga , Vera...then
    Loses against Dos Santos... and game over.

    BUT !...

    Jardine loses against Wanderlei....then
    Beats Vera...but then...
    Loses to Thiago , Jackson , Bader , Hamill....


    There's clear favoritism. short cuts...I know the UFC isn't the only one to do this , but they're the best at it....to the point where it just becomes ****ing annoying...that's why i like grand prix formats...

    There's a system of eliminations...it's irrelevant if the guy is some ex-wwe superstar or dana's friend...
     
  4. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    ahh, the politics. yes, that is frustrating.
     
  5. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Very easily. I dont care much for UFC shows. I dont like the format and i dont find the fights as entertaining as other promotions (the promotions that are left that is thanks to the UFC's protectionist policies). Everything about the UFC image/brand is nonsense. Its basically Extreme Championship Wrestling without the steel tacks and ladder matches.
     
  6. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    I'm glad to hear that you're regaining your interest but honestly if you haven't been enjoying MMA you've just been denying the fact that plenty of great fights have been happening all around us. You're in that camp that is very anti-UFC and probably even anti-WEC because of the Zuffa association but that's just your bias holding you back.

    I don't care if a fight is in the UFC, Strikeforce, DREAM or the recently deceased WEC. If I denied myself any one of those outlets for MMA I would have missed something great. For instance - the final WEC show was spectacular and ended in one of those moments that can only be found in a movie.

    I don't see what the big fuss is over the Strikeforce tournament other than the fact that they screwed the pooch in not matching Fedor with Overeem or Werdum in the first round. I think it's a good thing the tournament is happening but it's not a real Grand Prix. Fighters are only fighting once a night instead of two or three times a night.

    The UFC forces their fighters to fight the other top ranked fighters month in and month out. They don't have to call it a Grand Prix tournament to pretend that they're going to make the fights everyone wants to see but instead give them poor alternatives. Seriously. Was anyone really desperate to see Fedor fight Bigfoot? Instead of fighting Overeem. Or rematching Werdum. Or fighting the guy that tanked an entire organization - Josh Barnett. Wouldn't any one of those fights been more momentous and exciting that what we were offered? I think so.
     
  7. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't get the hype behind the WGP - its nothing like the format of the old Pride tournaments or K-1. It is basically the exact same matchmaking style as the UFC uses. For example what's the difference between the strong side of the bracket and what the UFC did at UFC 118 where Penn/Edgar met in a title match and Maynard/Florian met in a number one contender's match with the winner's meeting at UFC 125?
     
  8. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Its probably the line up of heavyweights in it......
     
  9. Nuke

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    The UFC will always be looked at as the premiere org because the stupid people out number the smart people, its true and if you disagree guess what...............???? You the dummy.
     
  10. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    It is the foresight of what is happening next and the hindsight of what got them there. Plus the x factor of anything can happen.

    The knowledge that the winner of this is not just the best in SF but the best heavyweight AND arguably the best fighter in the WORLD!

    I agree that semi final to final is always interesting but 8 fighters going three stages has a bit more depth to it.

    There is a good side to it - there might not be multiple fights but there is also no excuses cos alot of those guys go into the next round badly beaten up.
     
  11. boxingcar

    boxingcar Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think i've missed the most important ones though. I still watch most title fights. But i'll admit i've skiped a lot of fights last year. One more thing , i'm not even interested with that ufc reality show TUF ? (or whatever it's called)... I'll admit i watched 3 or 4 episodes when Jackson , Rashad & Kimbo were around. (funny ****)....But that's it. I don't know what happened after that (or before that season )....
     
  12. james4210

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    Just as an aside, if tennis was like MMA, every time a player lost a point, a steel dart would be shot into their leg. The match would be over in three or four serves, and the players would not be able to play another match for two months or longer due to injury.

    Who needs the epic nailbiting excitement of perfectly balanced sports like boxing or tennis or cricket that offer hours of absorbing entertainment. I personally prefer to watch two petrified men waiting for the fight to be settled by the first random flash knockdown. :tong
     
  13. IntentionalButt

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    Me too!

    I'll probably never be able to get back into the UFC as long as they are under the Zuffa business model (just such a boring product, but successful somehow) and MMA on the whole was feeling played out for me, but...

    The SF HW GP and the return of Bellator have me giddy.
     
  14. sugarngold

    sugarngold RIDDUM Full Member

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    If you don't watch the UFC how can you say it's boring?
     
  15. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    A lot of people switched off from the UFC when Zuffa came around. Personally, I don't understand why. Obviously it became more mainstream and more sponsor and promo orientated but I much prefer it nowadays. You can attack the matchmaking and favouritism, sure, but I see no problem with what Zuffa's done with it overall.