I was too good for College Boxing/banned /

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  1. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I was so good as a college boxer.I KNOCKED OUT every collegiate I fought
    and was not allowed to compete...Turned pro, and was a title holder.
    Who was I ?
     
  2. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Billy Soose. Boxed for Penn State under the guidance of former great middleweight Leo Houck
     
  3. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, this question was asked a while back.
     
  4. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, this question was asked a while back on some web site, not sure if it was this one.
     
  5. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes it was Billy Soose, possibly the best college fighter America produced. He as a pro and with a damaged right hand beat the tough
    Ken Overlin for the middleweight title in 1941....He also licked tony Zale...
     
  6. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Soose vs Overlin was onna the great robberies on both occasions.
     
  7. Surf-Bat

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    Been writing a book on the history of Pittsburgh boxing these days, so I guess you could say I'm kinda up on Soose:D

    Also Greb, Conn, Burley, Angott, Yarosz, Zivic, Klaus, Chip, Jackie Wilson, Wee Willie Davies, Curtis Hatchetman Sheppard, Harry Bobo, Spadafora, Dom McCaffrey, Frank Moran, Johnny Ray, Patsy Brannigan, Tony Marino, Tom McMahon, Buck Crouse, Lee Sala, Red Bruce, Bob Baker, Johnny Bizzarro.....

    The list is huge:patsch. But :thumbsupI'm having fun
     
  8. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What no Jack McClelland??
     
  9. Surf-Bat

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    Absolutely! Beat Abe Attell. He's probably the first certified great fighter Pittsburgh ever produced. A role model to all those rugged lighter weight Pitt fighters that came along in the 1900s-1910s. Patsy Brannigan called him "the best. There was nothing he couldn't do".

    Still looking for more articles on him, btw. So if you have any let me know? I've only found a limited amount on him:good
     
  10. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Carnage lib Penn dep has a file I do believe
     
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  12. Surf-Bat

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    Thanks Slakka. Did you happen to find an obituary for him? I cannot seem to find one
     
  13. burt bienstock

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    What a great fight town...I saw Lee Sala fight a couple times as a middleweight..,Handsome chap with a good left hook. But i thought he was from Donora, Penn, home of Stan Musial ?
     
  14. Surf-Bat

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    He was. Donora is just south of Pittsburgh and Lee had many fights in Pittsburgh. So technically he is considered a Pittsburgh fighter. It's more about where you fight out of than exactly where you live(though that is taken into consideration as well). The Bizzarro brothers were from Erie, which is not far away either. Johnny fought quite a few bouts in Pittsburgh, so he gets credit as a Pitt fighter.

    It's a dodgy issue with a lot of fighters. Michael Moorer is from Monessen, which is also close to Pittsburgh. But he only had a single fight in the Smoky City. So is he a "Pittsburgh fighter"? I dunno. George Chip however, lived in New Castle(North of Pitt). But around three quarters of his 162 fights were fought in Pittsburgh, not New Castle. So he was considered- then and now- to have been a Pittsburgh battler. He trained there, fought there, etc.

    John Henry Lewis was a California boy like me. But he moved to Pitt, joined Gus Greenlee's stable and had a handful of bouts in the city. Is he a Pitt fighter? Again, hard to say. He is in the book but I do mention where he was from and that he was not a West PA native.
     
  15. SLAKKA

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    I thought j.h.l. Was from az??