I weigh 155, want to put on 25 pounds of mass....

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by Shrewd Operator, Oct 15, 2012.


  1. Shrewd Operator

    Shrewd Operator Active Member Full Member

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    Chest and Triceps;

    Bench press, 54 kg for 15 reps, 62 kg 10 reps, 68kg 6 reps, 74kg 4 reps,
    78 kg 2 reps and 1 rep of 85kg..

    Incline bench 50kg 12 rers, 58kg 8 reps, 6 reps of 62kg..

    Close handed press ups for 30 reps, feet raised close handed press ups for 30 reps..








    I squat and deadlift, i usually dont deadlift more than 80kg, but i will increse that,

    I dont have a squat rack so i cant squat more than 45kg for safety reasons, so to get the best out of it i do jump squats for the more explosive training, i usually do that with a 30 kg bar..
     
  2. Shrewd Operator

    Shrewd Operator Active Member Full Member

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    Ye i'm gonna maybe try get a squat rack or even build one..

    Have only built up a tolerance for the deads, maybe time to move up the weight.

    Would you strongly recommend pullups? And maybe with more weight attched?
     
  3. Shrewd Operator

    Shrewd Operator Active Member Full Member

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    Ye i reall dont even bother with machines..

    Would ya say cardio is hampering my gains?
     
  4. Shrewd Operator

    Shrewd Operator Active Member Full Member

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    Just do a 3.5 km run twice a week,

    Na i don't box seriosly, just hit the heavy bag now and again..

    Need to bulk up somewhat, play general sports here in Ireland :lol:
     
  5. Shrewd Operator

    Shrewd Operator Active Member Full Member

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    Probably 8/9 months, with some periods in there where i didnt do much..

    The mass gainer i was on was a pure gimic.. no effect!
     
  6. cutthroat22

    cutthroat22 New Member Full Member

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    Are you working out at home or at the gym? If you are at a gym just do squats with smith machine, it's not ideal but at least you can get decent weight on it. Your routine looks a bit random, no big deal, mine was a piece of **** for the first year. If your trying to build size then stick with 3 sets between 10-12. I'll send you my routine over if you want. I pissed about in the gym for a year doing wateva I felt like and I can tell you, a routine is important. On the diet side, if you need a mass gainer then use mutant mass, I use it and it's great. Anglosaxon used it and so does billy on here if you want more opinions.

    Just looked at your chest and tricep day and can see its flawed. As I said I'll put my routine up in a bit, people will maybe slate it as its all personal preference but I get good results with it.
     
  7. cutthroat22

    cutthroat22 New Member Full Member

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    Off the top of my head...

    Monday bi/tri (all 10-12 x 3)
    Barbell curl
    Dumbell hammer curl
    Dumbell curl
    Reverse barbell curl
    Tri extensions
    Tri push down
    Weighted dips superset with close pushups

    Shoulders
    Overhead press
    Front raises
    Side raises
    Rear delt cable
    Dumbell shrugs

    Wednesday
    Squats
    Straight leg dead lifts
    Leg press
    Leg extensions
    Lying reverse leg curl
    Calf raises or seated calf raises

    Thursday chest

    Db or barbell bench
    Decline bench
    Incline bench
    Db flys
    Cable crossovers
    Pushup to fail

    Friday

    Deadlifts
    Pull ups
    Bent over rows
    Lat pull downs
    Seated rows
    (back days slipped my mind at minute)

    Weekend for resting

    Like I said thats rough off the top of my head, might be too much for some but it's what I've been doing for a while and I'm at my biggest at the minute and still growing, like you I take on 3500-4000cal a day but avoid cardio till I'm cutting.
     
  8. Primate

    Primate Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gotta call bull**** on 5000+ calories a day. When you think you're eating 800 calorie meals they're probably more like 400-500. When you think you're eating 5 meals a day, you're probably doing 2-3 and a snack or two. Guys with lower body weight tend to grossly over-estimate what they eat from day to day, much like fat people tend to under-estimate their daily calorie intake.

    Also, your routine is extremely crap. The only way to get bigger/stronger is to constantly progress on your lifts and eat enough to help your muscles recover and grow. Look up a few different progressive routines for beginners (Stronglifts 5x5, Starting Strength, even Wendlers 531), keep it simple and start adding weight to the bar. Keep a food log, physically write down what you're eating from day to day. Not just 'Toast and milk before bed', but: "Monday, 9pm, 2 slices toast wholegrain w/butter, 400ml whole milk", there are then various websites you can use to count your calories. Add them up at the end of the week and adjust accordingly. I think you'll find you're averaging a hell of a lot less than you think you are.

    I hate the "fast metabolism" bull**** that I hear. I used to be skinny/skinnyfat, and I always played the fast metabolism card, but in reality it was complete bull****. I didn't work hard enough and I ate like ****. I started working hard and eating right (and more) and all of a sudden people stopped describing me as 'slim', 'slender' or 'skinny' and started describing me as 'athletic' and 'fit'. Once I dedicated myself to lifting weights and had a consistent program, I became 'solid', 'stocky', and 'muscular'.

    Not bad for a guy that went from 143lb to 183lb at 5'10"
     
  9. Shrewd Operator

    Shrewd Operator Active Member Full Member

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    Sound pal, good to get another perspective, i'll incorpate some of your stuff into my routine..
     
  10. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Get on a proper weight lifting routine centered around multi-joint lifts and TRACK your macros. Everything you eat, record the protein/carbs/fats. It's easy to estimate what you're eating, but I can't begin to tell you how many times people are eating way less than they think they're taking in. Seems like a chor, but you just have to get used to it. Once you start progressing then you can be a little less precise with everything.