I would have rather gone out like Morales

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BobDigi5060, Oct 12, 2007.


  1. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    Yes, guaranteed, precisely because the amount of wars he was in. Did you see his fight against Raheem? His legs were leaving him dont you get it?

    If you know boxing, you know he didnt just slug it out with Pac the 1st fight. He fought behind a jab, used his right hand to the body, and backed Pack up by counterpunching. To do this you need your legs, which he did not have in the 3rd fight especialy, so he slugged.

    Morrales is one of my favorite fighters, but lets stop with the bull**** about how brilliant his 3rd fight was against Pac.
     
  2. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Shame Barrera won the trilogy 2-1 then, that must rattle your cage some! Maybw if Morales could have adjusted he would have won all 3, but he didnt
     
  3. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    I dunno.. Its all about the effort to me.

    Its not like Barrera's boxing was flawless, he lost by a wide margin. Both fighters had game plans but Morales actually demonstrated the will to win. The first 6 rounds were fairly close and if Barrera would have done as well in the early rounds compared to the last half, IMO he could have gotten a close decision. He had the early rounds to do it. But for whatever reason, he opted not to follow the advice of his corner and the rest of the world and choose to fight safety first. Even MAB's corner knew the deal. They had been telling him for the last 4 rounds or so that he needed to do more to get a win.

    MAB going the distance with the Pacman does not make him look any better than Morales in their fights with Manny. He should have been glad to of lasted so long with Manny and should have actually put in the effort. I mean he had come so far, why not try to win at least. But he was thinking the opposite, it was only to survive.

    Morales fought to win and Barrera fought to survive. The contrasting styles of Morales and MAB is the only thing that decided the outcome but in the midst of defeat, Morales showed that a W was on his mind the whole time.
     
  4. gutto

    gutto Guest

    I would rather go out like mab no point geting knocked out for the fun of it. but I agree both fighters did what they do best. Perhaps some of the doubters should try 12 rounds with pac and see how they go out.
     
  5. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    I dont need to know you. I know you have never fought professional fighters, the best of your era, and risked your life in the ring like Barrera has going on 70 professional fights.

    To say a professional fighter is scared shitless at his level is ignorance. Yes, he knew Pac had greater power, and he fought defensively, but that doesnt equate to being scared shitless.

    In fact, I have seen many scarred shitless fighters take the easy out and just get KOd as soon as possible (see Tyson opponents in the 80s).
     
  6. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    What hype? If you knew boxing, you would have known that most experts were choosing Barerra. Use your logic, dont let the HBO hype machine cloud your expectations of a fight.

    ****, did you think Winky vs Bernard was going to be a sluggfest too?
     
  7. gutto

    gutto Guest

    Right on :good
     
  8. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    And yet you hate on Pacman consistently in other threads and say he is scared shitless of Guzman.

    Are you a troll?
     
  9. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    I didnt expect Barrera to go to war, did you see the first fight?! If it didnt live up to YOUR expectations, that doesnt mean Barrera was wrong, it could just mean you set your hopes too high!
     
  10. acb

    acb De Camaguey... Gavilan Full Member

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    This is what the loser of an argument often reverts to. :good
     
  11. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Barrera fought to survive instead of fighting to win.
     
  12. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Thats a big statement to make, I doubt Barrera is scared of anyone, what exactly did he need to prove to people, hes been one of the best fighters in his respective weight classes over the last 10 yrs/ever for **** sake!:deal
     
  13. BobDigi5060

    BobDigi5060 East Side MMA Full Member

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    Exactly my point.

    I'm going to work guys. ACB, Peter5.. I value you're opinions and they really do make a lot of sense to me :thumbsup
     
  14. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    He had a strategy, OK it didnt work, but at least he had one, unlike Morales, his "strategy" was non-existent - a bit like your brain:hi:
     
  15. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Take it easy mate:good