The kind of people that want boxing banned don't care about the stoppage issue. They just want the sport banned because they don't like the idea of people hitting each other. It's not about medical risk. They may want to talk about medical risk sometimes, but then when it's pointed out that other sports can be dangerous, they will change the subject to, "but boxing is the only sport where you are trying to harm your opponent". I will also point out that Watson and Mcclellan weren't stoppage issue fights. Watson involved ringside medical care if i remember correctly. And although Mcclellan was blinking strangely, he shouldn't have been "KO" stopped in that fight. Maybe pulled out with the benefit of hindsight but it wasn't a normal stoppage case.
I seen someone bring that up the other day, they mentioned that if you look where Rose's legs go, Ian John Lewis also seems to slip/trip in the same place a few seconds later...
Yeah all fair points. I can see IJL reasoning behind stopping the fight, rose was on skates. it was hardly a Mckenzie - maccarenelli type of stoppage, but I felt it could have gone on.
Like somebody said before, Lewis doesn't know what he's doing when he jumps in! There's this bizarre moment of pause as his mind catches up with his actions. Lets not forget he is the proud owner of the worst stoppage in history - Enzo - Mckenzie. Personally I wouldn't want him as the third man if it was my future at stake.
agreed, 100% safety is impossible. it is a fine balance, and i ain't saying we've got it right. and thanks, len.
boxing fans like you and i can only speculate as to why others want it banned, but they're pretty unequivocal about it being head trauma. earlier stoppages mitigate that, and if that's the price we pay to watch, fair enough. g man was absolutely a stoppage issue, both the ref and his corner were remiss. that kid was showing signs of brain damage, and needed pulling out.
The Briggs fight went on way too long sustained damage over many,many rounds. His corner should of pulled him out around the end of the 8th-9th imo and IJL should of took that choice out of the corners hands at that point.
A possible problem is going to arise soon. Look at Rugby (Union). All hell broke loose last week because a concussion was missed and a player was allowed to continue (North). This week a player (Brown) was taken off due to a legal tackle, the logical conclusion being Rugby may need to ban tackles to the chest, as well as the head high shots. If Rugby is waking up to the perils of concussion, boxing is going to have to adapt too, because fingers will rightly be pointed. Not least because fans are up in arms about a fight being stopped at most a punch too soon. It is the 21st Century, yet boxing as far as safety goes is maybe 30 years behind some other dangerous sports...
You're delusional if you think that. Also Jones landed about 15 in a row. I am not saying it should have been stopped but the shots were landing. The stoppage was no worse than Jones vs. Brook 2 but I didn't see many on here complaining then. When wily, world class fighters like Jones get hurt they tuck up and ride with it, hold etc. Rose just fell apart. Andrade splattered him and he is not even a noted puncher.
Come on behave it was a poor stoppage boxing will always be a dangerous sport it's part of the game enter at your own peril fighters know the risk but I have no sympathy for Rose.
Not the worst from IJL but still premature IMO. O'Connor, Foster... We've got a fair amount of shockers at top level here in the UK.
there's more awareness in football, too, look at the furore earlier this season when courtois wasn't even concussed! boxing is in a unique situation where strikes to the head are intentional. as it stands there seems to be something of a blind eye turned, but i wouldn't be shocked at a ban in the future.
I agree, so as fans of the sport we need to start finding solutions to some very tough questions. Calling out a referee for an 'alleged' early stoppage is not a step in the right direction. It could give ammunition in due course to those who want to ban the sport.