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What I have heard from the British Medical Association is that they would only reconsider their position on banning boxing if all blows to the head were stopped.

That's the "price" they want, and obviously that's really no different to the end of the sport.

There is no need for earlier stoppages to stop the sport from being banned. It's just not at risk of being banned.

You missed my point. If that's correct, then it's very different to most stoppage cases. Someone showing signs of brain damage is a rare situation which has nothing to do with "Brit stoppages" of fighters that are a little bit hurt.

 

This.

Some of these guys may want to consider a new sport. Boxing is not for everyone pussies need not apply.

 

actually, it's you who missed my point. the heat was on boxing after the tragedies i referenced, quicker stoppages are a response to that.

the bma don't make the rules, they lobby those who do, as do the bbbc by demonstrating they do everything possible to mitigate brain damage. letting a fighter who can't defend himself take shots to the head ain't gonna help.

and to think some consider doormen stupid. some of us are sharp enough to recognize those looking to raise awareness of long-term effects of concussion in sport are making headway (that's a pun for the hard of thinking), others, it appears, are not.

i loved what boxing was, and loved partaking until my body let me know "no more!", but also recognize that we can't go back if we want licensed boxing to continue.

 

Even if that's correct, that historical situation doesn't apply now. We don't need to see these silly stoppages today. There is no risk of boxing getting banned.

I'm pretty sure that everyone would agree that if a fighter genuinely can't defend themselves then the fight should be stopped.

That isn't what happens with Brit stoppages. e.g. in a fight like Thaxton vs John Murray stopped by Howard Foster, it wasn't that Thaxton couldn't defend himself. It wasn't even a case where he was hurt so had an impaired ability to defend himself. Murray was just landing a few good shots that were having an impact, and that was it, the fight was stopped.

If that's "British boxing" then it's completely pointless anyway.

The early stoppages need to end or it kills the sport.

 

i can see both sides of the argument here.

my view is mixed too. on the one had the more popular boxing is, the more money guys will make, and the quicker they can retire, but then looking at the controversial stoppage in froch groves, it created a huge rematch and payday for both, and may well have saved groves from some damage, though maybe that is an outlier as manfredo v calzaghe was just a joke that helped no one.

 

Boxing's future in the format that it currently exists is very bleak.

 

Most certainly, until the parasites who are controlling it ie promoters and tv companies are ousted then it will fall further away from the casual sport fan.

 

Rose isn't world class/popular = fair stoppage it seems

And as for this "If Jones was stopped in similar circumstances there wouldn't be a discussion" how do you get to this conclusion? Degale-Gonzalez had a discussion and Gonzalez was down heavily and hurt much much worse than Rose, that was a premature stoppage to most people

Froch Groves 1 was premature, but Brian Rose was wayyy wayyy too hurt to continue, guy could have gotten killed in there!!..please

and what a spoilt brat for kicking a door. yeah his higher level aspirations in the sport that makes his living has just been destroyed in an inconclusive manner, maybe a human being in that situation might lose their temper a bit.

 

rainbows, amongst others, appears unaware of the prevailing climate. it's surely only a matter of time before the focus falls upon boxing.

 

That's a great post mate.

Can you imagine the furore on here if Jones had got stopped after a few punches by Rose? Oh my god. It would have become a legend, mentioned every time a foreign fighter came to Britain.

It was fascinating how IJL seemed to mirror the actions of when he stopped Enzo, hesitating, stepping in, wanting to wave it off but hesitating again for a second as if he wished he hadn't stepped in. Rose was badly hurt though, Enzo certainly wasn't.