ibeabuchi shortcomings

I agree about tua vs Ike, i never SAW it that clear. Ane OF course the score cards was **** in this fight

 

He was very good technically, sound defense, pretty quick hands and physically a beast and an iron chin. There's a reason people have the 'what if' he was a massive talent who'd already got 2 wins better than most HWs in history.

It's sad for HW boxing he didn't fullfil his potential. Fights with Lennox, Wlad and Vitali would have all been competitive beyond anyone else in the division.

He had more talent in his little finger than Sam Peter had in his whole obese body. Style wise they're nothing alike and Peter was never in Ibeabuchi's class.

 

It is tempting to think that his demons and personal failings would always have overtaken him eventually. Either way you have to be very cautious about making predictions. For every genuinely great fighter, there are half a dozen that look like they have all the ingredients, but still lack something critical.

 

Apart from nationality Sam Peter and Ike Ibeabuchi actually had a lot in common in regards to physical talent. Both were an in shape 6'2 and about 240lbs and very physically powerful. Peter had a great chin, Ibeabuchi looked like he may have had one (Peter's chin was more proven at world level) and both were good punchers and when in shape both had good stamina for big men. Peter in my opinion was quicker with both hand and foot.

Sam Peter fought more quality level HW opposition than Ibeabuchi, Sam Peter has a better resume than Ibeabuchi...Sam Peter was a world champion and Ibeabuchi was not.

Ibeabuchi only claim to fame was a very close, questionable decision over the even more overrated David Tua and a controversial stoppage win over an overconfident Chris Byrd. That is all.

There is no logical basis to put Ibeabuchi above Peter in alltime rankings apart from suppositions on what Ibeabuchi "could have" or "would have" have done had he not been a total headcase and gone to jail.

Ibeabuchi is the quintessential example of a hype job.

 

When is he due out then?

 

Peter was a pig 240 pounder, no ****ing way it was his natural WEIGHT, Ike was ripped at 235

 

I tend to agree with this assessment.

In a legacy sense, going to jail might have been the best move for Ike. He may have been exposed a fight or two later. Circa 2004, Peter was hyped beyond belief. Had he gone to jail, there would have been a lot of "would have" talk about him, also...

 

I think he's been out for almost a year… and now he is old… and still crazy…

edit: I guess he is in an immigration facility awaiting exportation...

 

He was overweight, a bodybuilder has not fat. He is eveb ripped but it is not his natural weight, Peter in good shape would be similar TO Morrison a 226 pounder

 

Ike vs tua was a hell of a fight, but ike fought the wrong fight here, imo it was a narrow tua win even, or at least a draw,

Ike did dominate the first 3 to 4 rounds but with each round winding down from there, he let the fight control slowly slip from his fingers, he got rocked shortly in the 9th and wobbled at the end of the 11th.

Ike probably was the only man who went toe to toe the full fight with Tua, which was not a wise decision to do.

Can be argued he drew with Tua. He did connect more often but most of thre powershots were on tuas side plus Ike got wobbled, might actually score the 11th 10-8, ok no probably that would be a little too harsh.

 

Peter was a very svelte 240lbs. Stockily built, visible abdominal and seratus muscle definition with big boulder shoulders.

http://www.boxing247.com/fotos/PETER-wray.jpg

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Media/SamuelPeter_Big.jpg

 

is it the best that you got? in these picks you can see that this guy can make 226-230 pounds easily in mucg better shape and much less fat

 

If you actually had a clue about boxing you'd understand Ibeabuchi could box while Peter didn't. That's all that matters. And no Peter didn't have any win to compare to Tua or Byrd.

In reality you're a racist who's never boxed and is comparing 2 completely different boxers because of their colour and country of origin.

 

For a fighter with only 20 fights, Ibeaubuchi was about as good and accomplished as could be expected.

He was 16-0 when he took on 27-0 Tua, and I thought he won that.
Yes, in later years, Tua was outboxed easier by other top fighters, but Ike was just a raw prospect going against a fit, young Tua.

He was 19-0 when he faced 26-0 Byrd, and that's an impressive stoppage win.

I don't think Ibeaubuchi was ready for Lewis or Holyfield in 1999, but he was coming along nicely.
Throw him in with Grant, Golota, Rahman, Sanders, a young Wlad ! He wins those fights 1999 - 2000.
Vitali would have been interesting. Mercer would have been interesting.
Tyson wouldn't have fought him.