Ibeabuchi's Use of PEDs

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Was Ike Ibeabuchi on steroids?

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  2. No

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  1. Barberboy

    Barberboy Member Full Member

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    What do you guys think?
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I would be surprised if he wasn't
     
  3. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I voted yes, obviously was blessed with a great body, but still his behaviour and his heavily muscled body for a boxer makes me think he was not drug free
     
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  4. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    they all were and still are on whatever they can get away with
     
  5. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, then Mike Weaver (body) and Mike Tyson (body and behavior) must have been on roids

    Ike was a nut, but his phychological state could have been caused by any number of factors other than roids.
     
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  6. Mendoza

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    It's not a fair question. He always tested clean, and that is the standard.

    Ike was a naturally big guy. He wasn't a skinny cruiser who suddenly bulked up to heavyweight, nor was he a guy recovering from an injury in which steroids were used to aid in the healing process.
     
  7. ticar

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    Tyson was probably the most genetically gifted fighter ever, and Weaver, while being blessed with a great body, was like 40 lbs of muscles lighter than Ibeabuchi while being only 1 inch shorter.
     
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  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    They were easily available, testing was a joke (if the state tested at all. Most didn't during Ike's era.), and use was widespread.

    Why wouldn't he have been?

    For a little extra color, here's a 2012 article where the NSAC admits they had no real testing process other than gut feeling, and that they didn't bother to test Pac or Marquez at all because neither had ever tested positive, which is the ultimate exercise in circular logic.
    http://articles.latimes.com/2012/dec/05/sports/la-sp-boxing-drug-testing-20121206

    I can guarantee you it wasn't any more comprehensive than that when Ike fought there in 96.

    It's a testament to just how widespread things were that so many of the big names got popped for testing positive or wrapped up in a scandal once rudimentary testing and investigative work was done. The bigger question to me is how many guys had positive results swept under the rug...although it's easy to have zero positive tests if you don't test anyone lol
     
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  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Who knows? The fact that he had big muscles and mental health issues certainly isn’t proof though.
     
  10. ticar

    ticar Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Yes, but it is a little suspicious being 6'2 and jacked 240 lbs with great stamina, plus your trainer is old school - against lifting weights.
    He was blessed with great genetics, drugs or not though
     
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  11. choklab

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    One thing I find rather telling is most old fighters known for their strength in their fighting days tend to blow up in weight as old men. They put even more weight on in retirement. I'm talking the kinds of guys they used to call "beefcakes" in the olden days. Think of old John L Sullivan. Jim Jeffries. So on and so forth. Those guys needed larger trousers when they retired.

    Then we think of Mike Tyson, Frank Bruno, Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis. They kind of shrink by comparison.
     
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  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    You would bet against it?
     
  13. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Wasn’t his dad a bodybuilding champion in Nigeria? Definitely inherited some favorable genes. I don’t know anything about his training regimen under Cokes but I bet he lifted a ton before he met him, and he probably did enough body weight calisthenics to maintain his physique, at the very least.
     
  14. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Correct card, the old school like Ali and Holmes banged on the weight in retirement whereas the others barring Tyson who at one point resembled an obese penguin wasted away.
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I don’t know anything about their post-boxing lifestyles so I’m not sure what to make of their late life weight gains. Tyson clearly blew up in weight when he was out of the ring for a while (I remember reading and hearing reports that he ballooned up more than 50 pounds above his fighting weight at least once (maybe before the Norris fight?)