Ibeabuchi's Use of PEDs

OK, so every exceptional athlete with strength and stamina who doesn't clock in under two spins is suddenly a PED user. Unless you are sunken chested, pencil neck geek like was popular in the 20's you are guilty.

Got it.

 

A giant 240lbs+ musclebound HW who can throw close to 1000 punches in a fight and be swinging away with the same reckless abandon in the 12th round as he did in the 1st just isn't natural any way you slice it.

 

Modern Envy is a Disease.

 

I think it's got less to do with envy and more to do with wanting an explanation.

For all we know the use of PEDs or growth hormones have helped a type of body shaped person that in another era never could have become top boxers.

Maybe those really tall thin dudes that lacked enough strength but could use their reach (that never used to win stuff) suddenly became viable?

"He's got a good reach but he's just too frail" now these guys can be stronger.

 

Does those pics tell you his weight? I think not.

 

I don't believe anything that comes out of Tysons mouth when talking about himself. He was telling everyone he was teetotal for years then we found out he was a heavy drinker EVERYDAY alcoholic...I doubt he leads a strict diet now. Its just taken a few year for his body to lose all the steroid fuelled muscles and return to its natural size

 

Modern professional athletes use steroids.
Steroids exist. They work. They are used.

Why do so many people have a trouble accepting the obvious ?

Have they ALL taken PEDS or steroids ? No, it's most likely some haven't. But that doesn't alter the general trend, the general reality. Spanning several recent decades.

As for "guilty". I don't think taking PEDS is any sort of serious moral crime and I doubt most athletes think so either, in private.
The whole anti doping movement and steroid stigma is ridiculous.
In real life drugs are sometimes good for athletes. And professional sport, especially boxing, isn't a kids game or some elite gentleman's amateur pursuit. Millions of dollars are at stake in a business full of very ruthless and competitive businessmen.
Common sense should tell you steroids are being used a lot.

 

Just because someone admits to doing "bad things" doesn't mean they've admitted everything.

A lot of steroid users do feel insecure about their achievements. And live in denial that they ever took them or that the steroids made any difference.

It's like those old actors and actresses who might have admitted to drug addiction, infidelities, drunkenness and all sorts of sordidness BUT still totally deny they've had cosmetic surgery even when it's obvious.

There's absolutely no conclusive reason to believe Tyson COULDN'T HAVE been on steroids.
People are pushing real hard to provide reasons why he wasn't when really HIM AND EVERY OTHER HEAVYWEIGHT IN HIS ERA might well have been.

This whole argument started mainly because some of us agreed Tyson"might have been" and "it wouldn't surprise me at all".
And that should be true of almost every top heavyweight of the past 50 years or so.

 

Physique has very little to do with it.
Hughie Fury tested positive, allegedly.

Depending on the dosage, the type of anabolic used, and the individual's bodily response to the drug, perceptible physique changes can vary greatly. Some of the most unimpressive looking athletes have been caught.

Physique has nothing much to do with it. Steroids do produce some weight gain, almost every time, but there's no reason to believe they'll change every boxer into bodybuilder looking fighters.

 

Instead of using steroids and lifting weights, he should have listen to your advice and improve his power and strength with shadow boxing, there is enough air resistance that will make you big and strong

 

Sure, maybe they’re all on steroids. As you mention, PEDs can be highly advantageous and they work for athletes of all shapes and sizes. It would certainly be rational for most fighters to use PEDs of some sort. But why do these unsubstantiated steroid allegations only seem to arise on this forum with respect to heavyweights with rippling muscles? The “he has well-defined musculature so he must be on roids” talk that plagues this forum is silly.

 

I tend to agree with that. Most boxers, even huge heavyweights, judged on physique alone, could well be "natural".

Except in certain cases where the sheer bloatedness does suggest steroids, for example, Shannon Briggs in his later years. Fans of argued for years he wasn't on them. But I think he was visibly obviously 'roid-enhanced in terms of bulk.
Ike Ibeabuchi is perhaps getting close to the borderline, based on physique alone.

There's a natural limit. I set that limit pretty high, personally. Because I know people can get HUGE without steroids. And I know the internet is full of pencil necks who think anyone with a half decent physique is juiced, and that's silly.
But there's a limit.

 

It's not envy, just common sense. There are diminishing returns for being that size when it comes to stamina. Blood doping can get past that issue.

 

AAS also increases red blood cell count.

 

I mean it’s not as good as using your head, but yeah, it works.