IBF Mandatory Filip Hrgovic denied title shot for the 4th time - IBF president confirms

Hrgovic should threaten legal action but I get the impression he doesn’t really care that much and is OK taking step aside money when push comes to shove.

 

He could start by not making the mistakes I outlined above.

You didn't see them in the second Wilder fight. There was none of the showboating that we saw in the first Wilder fight. It was very much business only right from the opening bell.

Fury was clearly in shape for Usyk but I didn't feel his focus was completely spot on during the fight.

But I wanted Usyk to win and I hope he wins the rematch as well.

 

Is it that hard for you to get it? Why are you blabling nonsense? Where the heck you see someone says that AJ is mandatory? You obviously haven't follow the whole script, yet coming with free essays.

Now before wasting my time again read carefully, this is before Fury - Usyk 1 took place, as IBF already allows Usyk to Unify, and are making an exemption for him to fight with Fury:

The IBF has notified IBF/WBA/WBO heavyweight champion Oleksandr Usyk & WBC champ Tyson Fury that the winner of their undisputed contest, which could take place in December, must face IBF mandatory Filip Hrgovic.

“IBF sent a letter stipulating winner of Fury-Usyk must make a mandatory defense without any intervening bouts. That includes a rematch. Filip Hrgovic is ready for his shot. If the title is vacated, right now, that bout would come against Anthony Joshua,” said Mike Coppinger

The only reason Usyk is not stripped yet, is cause he send a request for another exemption, which 100% won't be granted, otherwise IBF will break his own rules. Also cause he is suspended for medical reason, which is standard practice after a fight and a fighter suffering a cut. But the rematch is already announced and date is set.
And that IBF didn't ordered the Hrgovic - Dubois as a title fight. Dubois is number 4 or so, that's the reason.

AJ is number 3, number 2 is vacant, previously was Wallin, who AJ beats pillar to post.
AJ - Hrgovic/Dubois will be in September Wembley, this is already been set, they just wait to see the winner. And that will be for the IBF title, as per IBF own rules.

 

This sums up nicely why boxing will never be taken seriously as a sport.

 

I didn't read this because last time you went on these mad rants you tried telling everyone it was obvious that AJs next fight would be Hrgovic in the summer of 2024 for the vacant IBF belt.

You wrote essay after essay saying no one else was paying attention and it was obvious what would happen. And it didn't pan out like you said, I again imagine this won't pan out like you said.

The likely scenario is that Usyk defends his belt against Fury and then has so many days to negotiate a defence with Hrgovic.

My overall point is that Hrgovic has won a final eliminator, but has done nothing since then, just waited for his title shot, he hasn't even established himself the standout contender in the HW division.

 

So you reading my post, but comes out with false narrative, that i said AJ was mandatory, yeah this sums you up perfectly buddy ....
And now you are coming with another false narrative. Firstable check your facts as i stated that AJ is fighting Ngannou, not Hrgovic back in March, cause the IBF won't be ready with stripping Usyk, which is exactly what happen.

And if you had used your brain you would have known that AJ - Hrgovic(Dubois) is going to happen next, which is exactly what i stated, and most likely will be for the IBF belt.

Now if you had used the capacity of your brain if you could, you would have notice that all of this talks was before Fury delayed the Usyk fight TWICE.
So how the heck this could played out, when Usyk - Fury happen like 2 weeks ago in May?
My prediction that AJ will fight Hrgovic(Dubois) is still on point.

And just as we speak, IBF has made Hrgovic - Dubois for the Interim IBF World HW Championship.

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After that they will either gift Usyk another exemption, which won't be right, or they will strip him and make Dubois/Hrgovic a full champion.
Or put the belt on the line for the September fight AJ - Hrgovic(Dubois).

As far as Hrgovic goes i don't care, as he was the mandatory, and it's his choice who will fight.
He was ready to fight the Champion, which is the rules, but Usyk was unavailable twice already.
He is fighting Dubois who is number 4 by the IBF, anything else is just fanboys talk.
Also he will fight AJ in September if he is to win tomorrow.
But remind me what has Fury done in the meantime ? Is fighting Chisora and Ngannou back to back in the last 2+ years good enough, for Fury to keep his title?

Or Usyk not defend the IBF title for 4+ straight years? Or WBO in that matters for almost 6 years?

It would have been garbage move by the IBF to stripped Usyk before the Undisputed. But that fight was delayed and pushed for 2+ good years. They still allow it with a final exemption given to Usyk to defend his IBF title. He is refusing that and it's going for a rematch, that is pushed back once again to December.
IBF will be corrupt if not stripping Usyk, and i fully expect him to be stripped.
Neither do Fury deserve to become Undisputed with having no belts in him currently.
Now you can make a rant about it, but this is the facts, whether you like them or not.

 

Again, with the essays. Last time you went on these mad ramblings you was telling everyone AJ was fighting Hrgovic for the IBF belt this summer and how obvious it all was.

I remember expressing displeasure at the NGannou fight and you went off on a mad one then, in this kind of writing style.

You need to chill out a bit.

 

I'm in two minds about this. Yes, he is technically right. However, Usyk and the whole division were stalled because of Fury, for one thing. Also, Hrgovic is still unproven to me. His last two performances were really subpar, and I don't think he beat Zhang either. Zhang was gassed out by the mid rounds, granted, but until that happened, Hrgovic didn't do much, so that fight has always been a draw for me.

 

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I just wanted to point out something. It's always baffling when somebody tries to complain about text lengths—on a forum. We are not on Twitter, and we are not on Messenger to throw around one-liners. A forum is the perfect place for "essays" and "walls of text." You don't like it? Fair enough. Just skip reading them then. But to repeatedly moan about it sounds like you go to a restaurant and then start moaning about all those waiters and plates. Writing and reading texts, preferably longer and more detailed ones which help exchange ideas and views the best, are why most of us are here, and trying to turn it around and make it look like the guy who posts long posts is the weird one is... weird.

 

What should be baffling is a wall of text that doesn't reply to the original point.

If I replied to this post with an essay about why I'm convinced AJ fights Hrgovic next year for the IBF belt you'd be wondering why I spent so much effort typing something not replying to you, and rightly so.

To use your words, it would be weird.

 

I fully agree with this post.

For me the IBF has done the right thing, they've made it for the interim belt, which then forces Usyks hands whilst allowing the rematch to take place.

After the rematch it will either be a case of defend v Hrgovic or Hrgovic gets elevated to championship status.

It's really frustrating to me that Hrgovic has sat on his ranking for 2 years and not actually elevated himself up the division. But atleast this way he is forcing himself into the title picture without becoming an email champ.

Zhang and Dubois are two decent scalps and he'll only be upgraded if Usyk refuses to face him next.

 

Again crying out, without admitting how wrong you were?
I said AJ fighting Hrgovic next, which is exactly their plans and what's going to happen. Unless Dubois beats him and will be AJ - Dubois. And September is just about that time anyway.
So i was 100% correct.

And again you are crying about Hrgovic, yet you have not crying about Fury, and somehow he deserve a second shot at Undisputed, yet he brings nothing to the table, and wasted everyone time for good 2+ years.
Hrgovic 100% deserve his chance, and it's not like he tries to get big fights.

 

You told everyone that AJ couldn't find Hrgovic when he fought NGannou because he was waiting for the vacant IBF title first, and that would happen in the summer as Usyk v Fury would get stripped. Anyone who disagreed with you, you did this, replied with walls of text claiming it's common sense, and obviously as we've seen you were wrong.

Fury deserves it first because of the fact they made a two fight deal.

Hrgovic has wasted time for two years, fighting Dubois is a good move though.

Anyways it doesn't matter, the IBF have done the right thing. They've allowed Usyk to keep his belt for the rematch, they've said Hrgovic v Dubois is for the interim belt, so Usyk will receive a deadline to defend against Hrgovic. At that point the balls in his court.

AJ isn't really relevant unless Usyk retires or vacates. Hrgovic v Usyk is a much better fight than Hrgovic v AJ. I'd rather see AJ facing Fury and Wilder whilst he waits for a voluntary defence.

 

And how i was wrong, which AJ next fight is going to be Hrgovic or Dubois? How exactly is that being wrong?
AJ had 2 options wait for the IBF to make their statement and being inactive or take the Ngannou fight in the meantime, which is exactly what has happen.

AJ next fight is exactly Hrgovic/Dubois, which was confirmed literally by everyone at Saudi.
Yet you were crying all over the place, just like you are doing now, that AJ - Ngannou was a bad fight. But you somehow was missed with your crying that Fury - Ngannou was actually the bad match, as this is what led to AJ - Ngannou fight.

Now this is Boxing, and everyone with a common sense, knows that fights get postponed. And when i said summer i never said a specific period, this was reported.
And the reason plans were delayed, which is something you keep trying to dodge, is because of Fury, a guy you seems to love, and find all the excuses in the world for him, but don't want to admit it.

Now on to Fury. No he did not deserve it, and you are showing your bias to him once again. He ducked Usyk for 2 straight years, and the reason the whole division was on a wait, was because of him. For that alone he did not deserve even 1 shot at the Undisputed, never in a million years 2.
His last 2 fights prior to Usyk was Chisora and Ngannou, and this was in 2 years time. Last year he has fought only once against a complete novice, who actually beat him and Fury was gifted with a W. He should have lost all the privilege back then, but was gifted.

Then he was gifted a SD loss, instead of TKO or a wide UD loss against Usyk.

And if you want more reason, here is some. He never gave Wlad Klitschko the rematch, a rematch Klitschko actually deserved, unlike Fury.
He is a proven Drug cheat, and is a proven cheat inside the ring as well. And gets away with his dirty tactics, only cause of Corruption and that they are paying both referees and judges.

Now on to Hrgovic. He beat Zhang, who is one of the best HW and one of the scariest one.
He wanted to fight Parker, but Parker refused the fight.
He wanted to fight for a title, but Usyk was never on the line.
How is he wasted his time? He also wants AJ fight.
And plenty of top HW has ducked him, which is well documented.
He is fighting the Number 4 in the division.

Again he has done more than to deserve his mandatory shot, and it's his own right what he is going to do with his chance, once he get the mandatory position.

Did Pulev face any worthy opponent, since he become mandatory Twice? No, he didn't.
Who exactly did Ortiz fight to become mandatory? Stiverne before become a Champion ? Stiverne when he become Wilder mandatory again ? Dominic Brezeale when he become WBC mandatory somehow, after a huge beating and loss against AJ ?
Who did Charles Martin beat to become a mandatory? Hell who did he beat to become a Champion? Who did Wilder beat to become a mandatory? Who the heck did Parker beat to become mandatory, before becoming the WBO Champion exactly?

This just shows how biased you are, nothing else.
Try to answer any of this questions if you can.

P.P. And IBF hasn't allow Usyk to retain his IBF title. They are yet to make a decision. They are making Hrgovic - Dubois for Interim, cause Usyk can't be stripped, as he is suspended, and he also make a request for exemption.
This is the only reason he ain't stripped yet.
They may very well decide to give him another exemption, which is completely against their own rules, and they will break them, as they already gave him an exemption, which was the whole point of the discussion, which you missed the entire thing, claiming they will look corrupt, when they were making it perfectly clear that after Fury 1 he has to defend or vacate. This is their official statement.
If they bent over Usyk, this is what corruption means.

They can very well reject the request of Usyk, and strip him, once he is fit to go, and he refuse to defend against Hrgovic, as he had a contract with Fury already signed.
They could also prompt Hrgovic/Dubois to full champion at any point, or they can put the IBF title for AJ - Hrgovic fight, simple as it is.

 

Let me try to decipher this nonsense.

Why would AJ v Hrgovic/Dubois be next. That's not what they want. They want a shot at Usyk.

He could have fought many better opponents than a 0-1 fighter ,namely Hrgovic who was available.

No Fury Vs NGannou was an even worse fight than AJ Vs NGannou. Atleast AJ could say Fury struggled with him.

Nah I can't stand Fury, doesn't change you said AJ was fighting NGannou because he'd be facing Hrgovic in the summer for the IBF belt.

Yes Fury should have lost to NGannou, I never once said otherwise. Fury did lose to Usyk, I never once said otherwise. You show bias to Fury though, you were worried about him in the Usyk fight, I wasn't.

Yes Fury retired instead of rematching Wlad, he's he's a drugs cheats, no idea how any of this relates to what I'm saying.

Dubois is a good fight the guys he's fought in the last two years are rubbish.

You've listed a bunch of undeserving guys, no one disputes that. Don't really see the relevance.

Nah, Usyk keeps his belt then defends against the winner of Dubois v Hrgovic.