IBF must be feeling real smart right now

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  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cool if he didn’t want to take the risk then he didn’t need to keep that belt, simple.
     
  2. theXshape

    theXshape Active Member Full Member

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    The IBF did what their rules say and it's perfectly ok. But I don't think it was wise of them to do so. They lost a lot of money on that decision and Tom Loeffler had a point when he commented on the fact that the IBF ordered Chenko vs Jacobs, a guy who already got his chance to fight for the belt but said screw it because he didn't want to follow their morning weight rule.
     
  3. Tomato(e) Can

    Tomato(e) Can Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao. banned Full Member

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    AT THE SAME TIME...

    Kudos to them for sticking to their rules. Can't say the same for the other sanctioning bodies.
     
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  4. theXshape

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    The IBF did what their rules say and it's perfectly ok. But I don't think it was wise of them to do so. They lost a lot of money on that decision and Tom Loeffler had a point when he commented on the fact that the IBF ordered Chenko vs Jacobs, a guy who already got his chance to fight for the belt but said screw it because he didn't want to follow their morning weight rule.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look how it's ruined his hall of fame career.

    Sergiy has been a pro for four years. He has 12 wins. He beat Tureano Johnson. I'm sure his career wouldn't have been ruined if he didn't get a title shot this year. The WBC and WBA don't even rate him. The WBO has him behind guys like Martin Murray and Danny O'Sullivan in the middle of the pack.

    He's not some guy who has paid his dues and has been denied a shot for years and years. He's a novice pro. Curtis Stevens beat Tureano Johnson. Big deal.

    It was a bonehead move by the IBF. Simply stupid.

    You don't strip a dominant champ in favor of a guy who hasn't earned anything because of a "rule." If those are your rules, your rules are a mess. What they did makes ZERO sense in any rational mind.
     
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  6. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It might seem like the IBF is losing money by stripping GGG, but they also avoid litigation by doing it. Check the Rochigiani situation if you’re unaware.
     
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  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They screwed up bad. What a difference waiting a week could have done. Now they are the only ones not in this coming super fight. HAHAHAHA! @ IBF.
     
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  8. Dubblechin

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    He has 12 fights. Nobody else remotely considers him the top contender. What, are they going to BRING DOWN the IBF if the 12-fight novice doesn't get a shot this year? The IBF founder and former president is sitting in jail right now for demanding hundreds of thousands in bribes and the president who took over after him was forced out for taking bribes and stealing company funds. Yet, here it stands, still making bad choices.

    If we're being honest THAT situation (bribes for ratings) likely has more to do with what's going on here than someone trying to pass off the "deserving 12-fight middleweight is being persecuted (PERSECUTED I SAY) by evil pound-for-pounders who agreed to fight each other next" scenario.

    Engage in 160 PRO FIGHTS and remain the number one contender for 10 YEARS without a title shot like Archie Moore did ... then you've got a case for persecution.

    Not 12 wins in four years.
     
  9. lobk

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    Anyone who thinks the IBF would have stripped GGG if the contract was sign is delusional. Every sanctioning body is about the money.
     
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  10. thesmokingm

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    Huh? Isn't that contradictory? If they be about money... wouldn't they have wanted to be in the super fight? You know it's a percentage of the take right? Whose going to have the bigger purses???
     
  11. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Sorry , corrected my English heheh
     
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  12. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The bribe was bigger than the sanctioning fee.

    Here's the great Sergiy. I can see why they stripped GGG. Clearly, this guy is just a star who has been denied every opportunity.

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    Why isn't Castano rated the mandatory? He's got more pro wins than Sergiy and he isn't even rated. Guess Castano's team doesn't have Daryl Peoples' phone number and an address to drop off that envelop full of cash.
     
  13. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. GGG deserved to get stripped for that mismatch against Vanes. If GGG wasn't going to face a mandatory or anyone worthwhile he should've just waited for the Canelo fight and I doubt the IBF would've stripped him, but fighting Vanes not only made him look bad, but also the IBF and other alphabet organizations, but most importantly the Vanes fight didn't earn the Alphabet organizations a dime.
     
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  14. Dubblechin

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    The funny thing is if you actually watched Vanes' career and watched Sergiy's there's no doubt Vanes was actually the better opponent.

    Sergiy hasn't done anything. He just got mysteriously ranked the mando after beating another guy who had no business being a mando.

    It's like one bad choice leads to another bad choice leads to another bad choice.

    Now they've stripped a hall of famer in favor of a guy who has done absolutely nothing to warrant it.

    Brilliant.

    Sometimes its best just to let things play out. But, when you're the org that's known for taking bribes, it's tough to sit on the sidelines when the envelopes are piling up on your desk.

    I remember when not fighting FREEMAN BARR was going to get Calzaghe stripped. The orgs never learn.
     
  15. Jackomano

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    What a ridiculous statement. Vanes was a relevant fighter several years ago. What did Vanes do in 2017 or 2018 to make him relevant as a top fighter at 160, a division he never fought in and was never ranked in or even relevant as a top fighter at all that I'm unaware of?