IBF must be feeling real smart right now

He paid his dues by working his way up the rankings and becoming mandatory. What your saying is stupid because when GGG was the one being ducked by Sturm, Geale, Martinez, Cotto and Canelo I garuntee you, you would be saying they should have fought because he was their mandatory. Really he had beaten no one of note at that time.

I’m consistent I said those guys were avoiding him and they should have been stripped, and GGG is avoiding Derevyanchenko by not fighting him instead of Vanes and not agreeing to fight him by August. Therefore good decision by the IBF, they were completely fair.

 

this guy is smoking some strong brand of crack, he is actually saying a junior middleweight who has lost every title fight he has been in,coming off a two year lay off is better than fully fledged middleweight contender who was a decorated amateur.

 

That's what you got out of that?

Vanes beat his fair share of top fighters. Nelson. Smith. Had razor thin decision losses to Charlo and Andrade. His last bout was a title loss to Lara.

Tureano Johnson beat no top fighters to become a mando. Sergiy beat Johnson to become a mando. That's it.

Had Vanes beat Tureano, would you be insisting GGG should've been stripped if he didn't fight Vanes?

You're not arguing that Sergiy is any good. You're arguing about stripping a hall of famer over not fighting "FIGHTER X" in a ratings spot.

That's nonsense.

It's a joke. Golovkin is making his 20th defense. He's being stripped because a some 12-fight pro beat Tureano Johnson (who didn't deserve his spot to begin with)?

A lot of guys could've beaten Tureano Johnson. Vanes could beat him. Guys Vanes beat could beat Johnson. I'd take Willie Nelson over Johnson THiS MINUTE. They don't even need a camp. Nelson is miles better.

It's BEYOND stupid to strip one of the top fighters in the entire sport for a guy who has 12 fights, beat Tureano Johnson a year ago and hasn't done a lick since (and beating him wasn't much of an accomplishment).

 

He beat Tureano Johnson. That's not paying your "dues."

He has 12 wins.

 

Rules are rules.

 

A decorated amateur? According to Sergiy's record, he won the European Cadet Championship in 2002. He entered a lot of tourneys, but he didn't win them.

I think you're confusing Sergiy with a guy who actually PAID HIS DUES ... namely Golovkin ... who was a world amateur champ and won all the titles at middleweight ... and has made 19 title defenses.

Not a guy who won an amateur tourney 12 years ago and has 12 pro wins.

 

But GGG is ducking Sergiy?????

 

Wasnt Rochigiani stripped by the WBC ?
What are the common things between Derevyanchenko's case and the Rochigiani's, if you dont mind ?

 

No ... and in not too long that's going to sound about as funny as the people who asked:

IS JOE CALZAGHE DUCKING FREEMAN BARR?
IS PERNELL WHITAKER DUCKING TRACY SPANN?
IS TYSON FURY DUCKING CZAR GLAZKOV?

 

Did you know tureano Johnson was the mandatory for quite a while?

 

Exactly they were fair. I remember you showed me a couple months ago their rules and I knew then they will strip him. That wasnt the case though when Gennady was mandatory. Imagine GGG would've fought Saunders, the IBF would've look like some hasty stupid mofos right ?!

With Canelo lets say I can understand

 

If anyone else not name someone Joshua or Triple G would be getting so much **** right now

 

Eh... need more of a thread to tie those two together. The Rochihiani stripping cost the WBC dearly. You should google it to refresh your memory cuz there was a lot of BS there. He was supposed to fight Jones but Jones didn't wanna fight him (omfg like that has never happened before), so the WBC stripped Roch claiming it was due to typo errors that he was a champ, that he never should have held the belt in the first place or some **** liek that. Not sure it has any significance to Sergiy.

 

He could sue for a few million if not granted his mandatory shot.

My point is that sanctioning bodies can be sued if they don’t stick to the rules.

 

Yeah. Why exactly? Who did he beat to become the number-one contender for quite a while? What stellar middleweights were toppled so he could become the NUMBER ONE MIDDLEWEIGHT CONTENDER IN THE WORLD?

Again, one dumb decision on top of another.
* Dumb decision to make Johnson the mando after he beat no one.
* Dumb decision to rate Sergiy the mando after he beat Johnson (they didn't have to do that, either. You don't have to become a mando if you beat one.)
* Dumb decision to strip Golovkin.

Meanwhile, Golovkin is fighting Canelo twice, Jacobs, Kell Brook ... and all the IBF had to do was sit back, keep quiet, let the scene play out. The mistake with Johnson was erased when he lost to Sergiy. They could've made Sergiy a top five contender and just left it at that. Sergiy's going to lose soon, anyway. He isn't anything special, either.