IBHOF Ballot Next Year

then mine is Taylor, Hernandez,Benn.. I love the skills of Hernandez.

 

Michael Moorer
Nigel Benn/Chris Eubank either one
Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
Rafael Marquez
Dariusz Michalczweski

 

Still patiently waiting for the day they put Lionel Rose, Sumbu Kalambay, Marlon Starling, and Ernesto Marcel on the ballot.

 

Lockridge vs Pedroza was not robbery they were both very close fights.

Rocky Lockridge vs Eusebio Pedroza 1

1 Lockridge
2 Lockridge
3 Lockridge
4 Pedroza
5 Lockridge
6 Pedroza
7 Pedroza
8 Pedroza
9 Pedroza
10 Pedroza
11 Lockridge
12 Pedroza
13 Lockridge
14 Pedroza
15 Lockridge

143-142 Pedroza

Eusebio Pedroza vs Rocky Lockridge 2

1 Even
2 Lockridge
3 Pedroza
4 Lockridge
5 Pedroza
6 Pedroza
7 Lockridge
8 Pedroza
9 Lockridge
10 Lockridge
11 Lockridge
12 Pedroza
13 Pedroza
14 Lockridge
15 Pedroza

143-143 Draw

My scoring of both fights and two gentleman, who i score fights with in "scorecard thread" in the classic forum @salsanchezfan @scartissue two very knowledgeable posters who's opinions i respect alot. Also had Pedroza winning a close fight in their 1st meeting, too many times the word "robbery" is thrown around for a close fight. Were these fights debatable and controversial ? absolutely. Is there a case for both men winning ? absolutely. But were either of these fights one sided enough, where neither man has no argument for winning ? absolutely not. So there is no "robbery" here as you claim. Just close fights hard to score that could of gone either way, Pedroza closed the show winning a majority of the later rounds in there first fight, to earn a close decision. I see nothing in the champion "Pedroza" earning a hard fought close decision.

 

The problem with Moorer is that he is benefitting from revisionism. No one back then cared about his WBO trinket at 175. He gave it up himself because it was 'reetarding his career' (intentionally spelled wrong). But in recent years many have begun to paint a rosy gloss on his light heavyweight run, as if it was historically significant when it wasn't.

 

He certainly needed to do more at 175. He would be a slam dunk for the hall of fame had he fought and beaten Virgil Hill or Henry Maske which I believe he would have. A stop at Cruiserweight on his way up to heavyweight to win another belt would have made him a three division champ but again, the competition was not great 190 in those days which is why he didn't bother. Like I said, I'm not sold on him or the rest of the ballot once you get outside of the four I mentioned.

 

Seven fighters in there are deserving and some very overdue

In no order from that list I could see

Maske
Michalczewski
Ottke
Eubank
Benn

Getting in

I Could also see

C John
M Kessler

Getting there

 

Hopkins wasn't really in the mix so much at that time
Could say it hurts them that they never got those fights either
Both Eubank and Benn have imo greater SMW resumes than those two

 

Completely agree as well about "robbery" being thrown around WAY too liberally. Close fights are tough, because they supply ammunition to the fans of the loser, anytime there's even a shred of doubt about the outcome. It's inconceivable somehow that their guy could possibly be on the bad end of any verdict. Injustice at their fingertips anytime they need it.

Incidentally, I'm more a fan of Lockridge than Pedroza.

Now the Gomez fight, that was different. THAT qualifies as a robbery. I remember one poster here many years ago who argued that Gomez deserved the decision in that one. He was Puerto Rican and in attendance that day and was convinced that Gomez won because "you should have heard the crowd!"


.....................huh?

 

Sugar Sven Ottke must get in, about the rest I don´t care

 

I called it. Only person I missed out was Marquez.

 

It’s kinda ridiculous that Darius Michalczewski hasn’t gotten in yet.