I'd pick Oleksander Usyk to beat Max Schmeling

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Sep 10, 2017.


Am I crazy?

  1. Yes, you're crazy.

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  2. No, you're not crazy but I don't agree with you

    29 vote(s)
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  3. Usyk wins.

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Could make polls public then.

    But i chose not to.
     
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  2. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We still don't know enough about Usyk to make him clear favorite, but we know enough to know that he'd be capable of beating Max.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Hard to say isn't it.

    Usyk has the potential to achieve enough that picking him over champs of yesteryear is a default option.

    It's a dynamic opinion, as it always is with top level active fighters.
     
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  4. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    :deal:


    (just kidding)
     
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  5. janitor

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    Making extravagant picks for an active fighter, is always a dangerous game.

    I like everything that I am seeing in Usky, but if he gets knocked out by Derek Chisorah, then a lot of people will look very silly!
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Not as silly as the person who puts an H in names willy-nilly!
     
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  7. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I'd go ahead and wager that any top 5-10 heavy today would lead Schmeling in a public poll that's just the way fans are.

    Cruiserweight is a good transition division to ease guys like usyk from the ams into heavyweight but don't think it's a good indicator of how good he will be when he moves up. He could potentially be worse or even better at Heavyweight then he was at cruiserweight. We just don't know

    How many cruiserweight champs have gone on to become top dogs at heavyweight? I can think of 2 right now.
     
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I guess we're still looking pretty unsilly....
     
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  9. McGrain

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    His touches are pretty glorious. He's shooting a lot of surprisingly stinging punches in there tonight.

    However, he got tagged with more right hands tonight than would make me comfortable. Schmeling won't provide a bum's rush of course, and I picked him for a reason, he's too steady for this job IMO.

    Still, Usyk is so fascinating. He won't get Joshua until 2022 so he has time.
     
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  10. Unforgiven

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    Usyk looks ordinary to me.

    I thought he struggled a bit with the plodding Chisora, a gatekeeper journeyman at best.

    Was expecting a lot more from Usyk.
     
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  11. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Make sure you stay clear of the General Forum then :lol:
     
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  12. Unforgiven

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    Already been in there. The delusion is everywhere.
    All of a sudden beating Chisora UD12 is something magnificent.
     
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  13. Unforgiven

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    If Joshua is champ by 2022. I wouldn't count on that.
    But based on what I saw last night, Joshua (if he gets past Pulev) would be best advised to take the Usyk fight next, before going for Fury.
    If I was Joseph Parker I'd positively want that Usyk fight for the WBO too.
     
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  14. Unforgiven

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    He barely looked like a top 10 contender last night.
     
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  15. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This fight doesn't prove anything for this hypothetical. Chisora was slow as hell and had no stamina. Usyk won clearly, but he did this in unimpressive way.

    I prefer to look at Usyk's work at CW to get the idea of him facing Max instead. Schmeling would school Chisora as well.
     
    70sFan865, Nov 1, 2020
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