I'd pick Oleksander Usyk to beat Max Schmeling

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Sep 10, 2017.


Am I crazy?

  1. Yes, you're crazy.

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  2. No, you're not crazy but I don't agree with you

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  3. Usyk wins.

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  1. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I dont think he does well as far as getting top 10 at HW but it is FAR fetched to assume he cannot out box Shmelling. And no hes no Holyfield who WOULD out box Shmelling at any weight too..
     
    GALVATRON, Sep 16, 2017
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  2. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You are second biggest dope on this entire site next to Dino ..thats all i got right now for you . lol
     
    GALVATRON, Sep 16, 2017
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  3. janitor

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    Huck and Cunningham gave some of the top heavyweight contenders all that they could handle.

    I think that if you took away the Klitschko's, the top cruisers would have done just fine in the heavyweight division.
     
    janitor, Sep 17, 2017
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  4. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Gassiev is better than Usyk imo.
     
    reznick, Oct 22, 2017
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  5. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Did anyones views change after the fight today?
     
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  6. McGrain

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    It wasn't a great fight in support of this prediction, put it that way. He got hit a lot and that wouldn't go so well wih Max. Then again it's not as if he was up against a powder puff and what a good fight it was.
     
    McGrain, Jan 28, 2018
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  7. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If in doubt, pick the fighter with the known resume.

    Usky still has time to implode and make you look silly, while Schmeling has missed the boat on that.
     
    janitor, Jan 28, 2018
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  8. Mendoza

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    Usyk is cleaning out a very good division and taking fights vs men in their primes.

    He’s also beating them in their turf.

    Yes he could beat Schmeling.
     
    Mendoza, Jan 28, 2018
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  9. McGrain

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    Yes, it's always risky picking a fighter who is active over one who is retired, for reasons you state.

    But when I pick in a fantasy fight I try not to think about all that. I just pick who I would pick if they were fighting this weekend. That is an equally good way to make yourself look foolish but it's all in good fun.

    And Usyk already has a fine resume. I think he'll get Gassiev in the final and Gassiev is excellent. That's a legitimate 1 v 2 and it'll add a name to the all time top 10 list at cruiserweight, undeniably. A top 10 all time at cruiser is a reasonable opponent for an all time top 20ish guy at heavyweight, especially given that Usyk is the bigger man.
     
    McGrain, Jan 28, 2018
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  10. McGrain

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    How you like me now?
     
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  11. SuzieQ49

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    Top 5 cruiserweight of all time

    Needs to challenge wilder Joshua or fury for immortality
     
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  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Top 5 ???

    Other than Maybe Holy...

    And Rocky, if you want to consider that he never weighed in above 200, who else ?
     
    cuchulain, Jul 21, 2018
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  13. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Exactly lol what an overrated joke kovalev . i saw fantasy fights of him vs marciano lmao
     
    Combatesdeboxeo_, Jul 21, 2018
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  14. SuzieQ49

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    Yeah top 2
     
    SuzieQ49, Jul 21, 2018
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  15. Gudetama

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    I haven't edited it recently, but I don't have Schmeling and Usyk too far apart on my ATG Cruiser list:
    13. Schmeling
    14. Corbett
    15. Jackson
    16. Sullivan
    17. Jeanette
    18. Conn
    19. Moore
    20. Usyk
    May be time for a rethink, as Usyk continues to impress.
     
    Gudetama, Jul 22, 2018
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