Id Sooner Have Klitchko V Haye Rematch than Mormeck

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  1. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Haye is clearly talented, but he also has a couple of very apparent flaws and bad trades.

    - when he's fighting a top opponent, he suddenly runs and potshots.
    - he is very inactive, most 5 year pro's have more fights as him.
    - he has a bigger KD per fight % as Wlad, with clearly weaker opposition.
    - he avoids other top contenders, even when holding a title.
    - his punchoutput is extremely low, even for a HW.
    - anyone knows you can't believe a word he says.
    - 3 of his 4 HW titlefights have gone in the book as 'stinkers'.

    With all this in mind, why should he get another shot at Wladimir first?
    I would like to see him manhandeled by Vitali though, but I want him to earn his shot first.
     
  2. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why couldn't he fight Valuev. It would be a big money, minimum risk fight
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im a Wlad fan and while i dont really like this fight who else is out there?

    also who else is out there that can make him a buck, not only did him and Vitali beat everybody but there are also no marketable money makers left

    At the end of the month Chambers and Thompson fight an eliminator to fight Wlad

    neither of those guys are big draws even in the US

    they may actually sell better in Germany where they are probably more well known to the casual fan

    after Chambers fought Povetkin and Dimitrenko in Europe

    and Thompson fought Krasnqi and Wlad in a good fight in Europe

    but Mormeck I take him for what he is a big money fight, Mormeck is big time in Europe and will sell tickets and generate interest among European fans

    Do i see him as a challenge, no but i understand the want for a pay day

    its like when Holmes fought Marvis Frazier he fought a long reign like Wlad has got no credit and no great opponents out there so he takes a cash fight

    Honestly who is left in the division that would agree and be ready by the time this fight is set to go

    everybody else has either just fought or just lost or isnt ready
     
  4. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    i totally agree

    he talked his way into the first fight

    he didnt really earn it or earn a 2nd fight and his effort was very poor

    plus knowing Hayes word he could take 2 yrs to finally get in the ring

    Wlad shouldnt play games at this point in his career
     
  5. Thomas!!

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    HW boxing has reached a new low
     
  6. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

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    he earned it as much as anyone wlad has faced. he earned it far more than mormeck.
     
  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    very true but who else has earned it since the Haye fight

    Hayes performance didnt earn a rematch and knowing his antics the fight could take another 2 yrs to get made

    whose left that earned a chance at Wlad

    everybody at the moment is tied up just fought or isnt ready

    Mormeck atleast is 3-0 at the weight, im not blimping him up as a good fight but he is a good draw in Europe and will make Wlad good money before he gets stuck with his IBF and WBO mandatorys who he will fight for cheap
     
  8. ploys

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    why would this be?

    what antics?

    cos milking a belt for a couple of fights to make some money (which is what held up the first fight) can't really happen NOW can it?
     
  9. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    well he fought a terrible fight running falling down didnt really try to win till the 12th

    antics well do you remember how many fights he backed out of and it took him 2 yrs to finally get in the ring

    at this stage Wlad doesnt need to play the waiting game

    he can make a **** load of money vs Mormeck for even less trouble and out of the ring bull****

    Haye needs to beat a credible contender and put himself back in the spotlight
     
  10. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

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    just to be clear:

    you think that haye would likely hold up the fight by backing out to go & fight someone else instead...

    so...you want him to go & fight someone else instead; to prove...that he won't do that? :huh

    genius. :lol:

    & you are forgetting: the reason haye/wlad fell apart was money. haye ended up taking others fights that made him more money than he would have got originally. he took the path that made him the most money...which meant not fighting a k bro for a bit. that wouldn't be the case NOW would it?
     
  11. ploys

    ploys New Member Full Member

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    less trouble...less out of the ring bull****...easier fight...lots of money.

    that's what you're bitching about haye doing but praising wlad for. :deal
     
  12. ViktorVaughn

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    Not sure about that.. Is it better to have overweight & out of shape HW or blown-up CW who are in shape and come to fight? With that being said the result will be the same. Mormeck will be destroyed by Klitschko. I think he will realize it once they meet face to face but he will try.
     
  13. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so you think haye being proclaimed as a great heavyweight is ok considering hes never fought a decent heavy??and just the fact he went the distance with wladimir??****ing ballix mate if ive ever heard any in my life.haye has to beat someone to earn it now..his mouth got him there the 1st time let his so called boxing skills get him there this time..then ill stop hating
     
  14. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    he already beat Haye at this stage and is moving on to whats left in the division

    Povetkin wont fight him
    Helenius is not ready
    Chambers and Thompson are tied up
    Fury not ready
    Arreola lined up to fight
    Adamek recently KO'd
    Dimitrenko just fought wouldnt be ready for December
    Stiverne lined up for vitali
    Solis hurt

    name anybody else youd rather see

    im not calling mormeck a world beater im admitting that this is a money grab tune up if you read my other posts

    and also saying that haye is not interesting either
     
  15. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal:deal...another sane person