I'd still pick Cotto over williams

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    K....but he has kept that workrate against everyone.
     
  2. the_what

    the_what Bolo Punch KO Full Member

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    Cotto is not fast. But he isnt slow either. He has bested faster fighters like Malinaggi, Quintana, and Judah. Shows me his handspeed is really good.

    And you can chalk up the Margarito loss to inexperience for Cintron. His offense if improving big time under Emmanuel Steward. He isnt the crude fighter he used to be.
     
  3. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    But who are they?

    Any elite class guys? Don't say Margarito, because I've said for a solid year that he is a garbage hype job. This was no surprise to me, if Williams were a true elite class, he'd have iced this guy by round 10 with the volume that he was throwing.

    Hell, even Clottey was smashing up Margarito before the hand injury, Clottey is nothing special either.

    How does this translate to keeping the workrate against a brutal body puncher, who utilises pressure better than anyone in the division and who negates speed VERY well?

    This is not hard to predict, why are we all ducks with headlights blasting in our faces?
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am not going to argue with you on a hypothetical. I don't see it that way and I won't unless it happens. This fight went one of the 2 ways I thought it would....the X factor being Williams chin, which proved to be tougher that I thought.

    No one is any kind of duck or anything else. We all pick fights wrong at times. No one knows anything for sure.
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Anyone who supports Williams should never ever say anything about Vlad's clinching ever again. Clinching is a part of boxing, but Williams was holding a lot, excessive, where was the outrage? Double standard.
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Oh yeah, I'm a ****ing idiot who doesn't know his way around the sweet science, that's why I can formulate detailed, well thought out opinions and get the majority of my predictions correct.:?
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    What do we not know here?

    When Margarito started to really heat the pressure on, he was effective, Cotto would start from round 1 and Williams wouldn't establish his workrate like he could on Margarito.

    Being that Cotto hits harder, is quicker, more accurate, smarter and throws viscious combinations...

    Why is it far fetched to see a man whom was bothered to the body by Margarito, a sloppy hitter, and who'd be going against a very hard laser punching hiiter?

    This is easy as pie to predict. Hopefully we get good odds.
     
  8. Thinman

    Thinman Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bad reasoning. Nobody is saying that Williams will KO Cotto, and I don't think Williams needs to Ko Cotto to beat him. I think is the other way around, Cotto can only win if he stops Williams, otherwise he would lose the fight big time.

    You are talking about hype, and you are doing the same by saying Cotton would beat Williams in 3-5 rounds. :huh
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    They're all 2nd tier level fighters, under the 1st tier, the ELITE.

    I'm not king ****, but I'm absolutely correct about these overrated guys.
     
  10. Slaughter27

    Slaughter27 Member Full Member

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    You've just lost all credibility with me man.
     
  11. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    ....

    I give up.:hi:
     
  12. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Fine with me. But when he's destroyed brutally if the bout happens, or if he's destroyed by Cintron even, think back to this post and how a poster who was absolutely on target about these 2nd tier, overhyped WW's lost all credibility with you for having a differing opinion.

    Fanboys, have to love them.:lol:
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Margarito was effective as in MORE effective than he was, but Williams kept fighting too, and clearly won the 12th.

    Margarito is also 5in taller than Cotto. Cotto would have a different task entirely getting inside on Williams. Not to mention, Margarito has a better chin IMO.

    Did I say it was far fetched? I just don't agree with you.
     
  14. Speak.King

    Speak.King Member Full Member

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    I'm reading alot about Paul Williams and Margo are over hype. Honestly, the same can be said about Cotto.
     
  15. Slaughter27

    Slaughter27 Member Full Member

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    If you would of just said Cotto has a good chance of beating Williams, then I wouldn't of responded. But when someone predicts a knockout before the 5th round, then you have to question that person.