Ideal size for future HW contenders?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by markusmaar, Nov 21, 2008.


  1. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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    It might look a little something like this. (There was no neutral corner stuff in these days!)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawHgrLvbD4

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  2. imp4pdabest

    imp4pdabest Guest

    you didnt post that right.
     
  3. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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    I know. I edited it. Try this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawHgrLvbD4


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  4. imp4pdabest

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    LoL. Yep. I wonder how Valuev's chin would react to a Tyson punch
     
  5. Barber-ian

    Barber-ian Active Member Full Member

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  6. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Anywhere between 5ft 9 and 7ft. :D
     
  7. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well as the saying goes .. a good big man usually beats a good little man.
    Often the larger they come though they are lacking in skill ... but if the height comes with skill/athleticism like with the Klitschko brothers its definitely an asset.

    Valuev actually having giantism and not having proper training (no amateur career either) is clearly a different animal ...

    For all his flaws though the man tried hard to improve his skills .... has a solid jab... and more impressive the guy has amazing stamina for his size and seems to have 0 issues going 12 rounds.
    I am amazed that a man that is 7ft tall and weighs 320lb has better conditioning than a lot of those heavies.....
     
  8. newbridgeboxing

    newbridgeboxing Active Member Full Member

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    Iron Mike made his career by beating up big guys !

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  9. Cruiser1

    Cruiser1 Champion Emeritus Full Member

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    If you think some 5'11'' fighter can rise through the ranks and become heavyweight champion you've lost touch with the division.

    The Eastern European fighters will continue to dominate this division for years. Most of them are comfortably over 6 feet and have outstanding amateur backgrounds. They are fundamentally sound and it looks like most of them can take a good punch. Smaller fighters will be kept at bay by their jabs and will eat right hands that follow them. If a guy with, say Tyson's dimensions, is to achieve anything he better have power, speed, a chin, and a better-than-average amateur background. That's asking for a whole lot these days.
     
  10. Sakura

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    Can you give example, who was big and skilled?
     
  11. skier47

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    Buzz off hater. Comparing a terrific, long-term, proven master boxer and champion like Wlad with a scrub like Tye Fields.:tired :tired :tired Wlad is a champ, punk, because he rapes all your American hopes/dopes? and then vacations in Europe with his bevy of beautiful women. Get an American champion to challenge the Klitschkos and stop crying like a *****. You know you can't compete with the eastern European phallanx of heavyweight talent that is taking the boxing world by storm.
     
  12. Arka

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    Tony Tucker was a very competent heavyweight.He could move well for 12 rounds and he could punch.If you want to know how good he was,years later in the nineties he managed to outpoint Oliver McCall and last the distance with Lennox Lewis.Also,before he fought Tyson he was coming off the KO of a fighter by the name of Buster Douglas.Tyson won his fight with Tucker handily outjabbing him and outpunching him with his power shots.

    Tyson took out a past his best Holmes,with his precision punching,giving him his only KO loss.Holmes was just trying to survive in that fight.Holmes went on to outpoint Ray Mercer and last the distance with Holyfield and later McCall.

    James 'Quick' Tillis and Tony Tubbs(though he never came in shape) had skills the like of which have been lost among present day heavyweights,Tony Tubbs also gave Riddick Bowe one of his toughest fights early in his career and Bowe was thought lucky to get the win.

    Big guys like Mitch Green or James'Bonecrusher' Smith he handily outpointed.If they came to fight or had less skeletal heaviness than Tyson,himself,Mike simply blew them away.

    I believe it is more the style and relative ease of Tyson's victories rather than necessarily his opponents showed the consistent quality of some of the best heavyweights in the seventies or Riddick Bowe,Evander Holyfield or Lewis at their peak.
     
  13. Sakura

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    In my opinion only big and skilled heavyweight was Lennox Lewis 6'5. Tony Tubbs 6'3, James Tillis 6'1 and Mitch Green 6'5...Tubb's and Tillis was skilled fighters, but not big ones. Mitch Green was tall but not skilled at all..
     
  14. Arka

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    Tony Tucker at his peak had power,punch resistance and mobility.He didn't have the refined skills of course.
    One more thing all the 80s heavyweight seemed to know-that is how to clinch:
    "One thing's for sure. Klitschko will fight like he always does. The man can't, and won't change. I discovered that when he parted ways with Freddie Roach after the trainer tried to show him how to clinch, when in trouble. The brothers weren't interested. Perhaps someone should have told them that if Wladimir clinched, he could have prevented his two knockout losses to lesser opposition."
    http://www.britishboxing.net/news_send_358-Mission-Possible-Williams-to-topple-VK.html
     
  15. Sakura

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    Tucker was quite big, but how skilled or hard puncher he really was? Look at his record there is many UD victories over nobodies. I assume he was prime around middle 80th..