If 14 year old Tony Ayala had sparred with Duran instead of Cuevas....

He'd have ended up simultaneously just as rapey and just as unimportant to boxing.

 

Ayala did nothing in the sport, I just don't get the speculation. For a while he was a good prospect and that's it.

Duran vs any 14 year-old kid??? This is child abuse and I doubt Duran would have anything to do with it. In 1983 however Duran does to him what he did to Davey Moore.

Guys, Duran is an ATG, of course he beats that hideous ****** Ayala.

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I dont think Ayala`s people would let him get in there with Duran. The ring was Duran`s office.

 

I agree with you. Ayala was a talented young fighter. He was strong and vicious. Problem is that its a bad idea to go tearing into Duran. You just dont do it. Hagler didnt even really do it. Barkley and Moore paid the price for standing with Duran, an older version.

 

I honestly can't take this thread seriously. IF Tony A EVER got out of line with Duran in Sparring... Duran would've made an example out of him and probably ended his career if he got out of line too much. Tony had ZERO chance at 14 and only slightly better when he was older.

 

It can't be.

 

Hearns did it

 

Hearns was a 6-2 freak of nature. Ayala didnt have that kind advantage.

 

Nobody could have reigned in Ayala that day, least of all those unaware of just what a dynamo they were up against. .

 

Except Duran would've absolutely mullered him and show him things he's never seen.

He must've been better as a kid, because as an adult he only showed basic and crude front foot marauding.

 

I wouldn't favour a 14 year old George Foreman over Duran let alone Tony Ayala Jr. Duran gets arrested for child abuse.

 

You are totally right! :good:good

But just think how rich you would be if you really did bet on Tony to smoke the entire 154 division, most esp. the fattened up LW named Duran. :yep

There is absolutely no way on earth with Tony's firepower and assault that he could lose to a former LW, not at 154. At these higher weights, Duran occasionally had his moments, but was great in name only.

Come on, John. Forget what all these other crowd followers think. Dare to be your own person.

 

If only people would see that the only reason Duran beat Moore so badly was because he thumbed his eye in round 1. It went from being competitive early on to Davey fighting for his life. His eye swelling shut certainly didn't help.

It otherwise would've been a mirror image of the Barkley fight, with Duran most likely taking a hard-fought decision.

 

i really wish someone had a camera on hand so we could see for ourselves just how good ayala was that day. it seems crazy that a 14 year old kid could handle the champ of the world especially a murderer like cuevas

 

which is part of the problem of these gym wars and boxing tales. we don't know if ayala was that good that day, cuevas was that bad that day or somewhere in between.

in the end flea raised a good point, in that ayala as a pro never showed the skill or promise he supposedly showed in the gym that fateful day.