If 2005 Morales (of Pac 1) was a jr-ww, who'd win between him and Khan (of Maidana)?

Seriously Popkins this is an odd thread to make. The bottom line is Morales was never at his prime at 140, and even if he had moved up as far as 140 we dont know if he could compete at the same level he was at, at the lower weights. You cant place a prime Morales in a light-welterweight body because he was at his prime at 126 and 122 and was a natural featherweight/superfeatherweight.

 

Haha his argument is water tight tho, I mean morales struggles with speed so that's why he could beat pac in the first fight.

 

Do you not understand how continually stupid you are sounding?

I can say dumb stuff, admit i'm wrong and move on.

You can say morales struggles with speed and is better now, not admit you're wrong and hence stay stuck in this idiotic mindset.

 

So you dont understand the difference between how Pacquaio fights and how Zahir Raheem fights? You dont see why Raheem dominated Morales and Pacquiao wasnt able even when he fought a severely weight drained Morales? You dont see how Raheem used his speed against Morales at a distance where he couldnt counter, and how Pacquiao used his speed at a distance where he could counter?


You really are a stupid muther****er. :rofl

 

Khan zips around the ring, lands some flurries. Sooner or later - probably sooner - Erik figures him out, catches him and stops him cold.

 

when you're in a hole son, stop digging. Better to be quiet and be thought a fool than to open your trap and confirm it.

I'm pretty sure I can think of lots of other cliches that apply to your situation.

I was ringside for the Raheem fight. Morales had NOTHING. Couldn't move his head or his feet. That fight had nothing to do with Raheem and everything to do with Morales.

 

Read the thread dope. Morales being severely weight drained and past it has been stated. But why was a severely weight drained Morales competitive with Pacquiao and a shot Morales competitive with Maidana if it had nothing to do with the guy he was fighting? :nut

 

Training camps, passage of time, the price he paid in the Pacquiao fight, there are thousands of potential reasons. Who the **** knows? We can't know the cause, but we can sure as **** see the result. Erik looked like he was standing in cement the whole time. His eyes were actually tracking punches that he couldn't move his head to avoid. *I* saw a lot of punches coming from Raheem that bounced off of Erik's dome, and if I could see them coming you can be damn sure that Erik should have.

As far as him being competitive with Maidana - time off, new attitude, style matchup, good training camp, better nutrition, take your pick. I wasn't in camp with Erik so I don't know.

You're trying to say that Khan is some kind of bad style matchup for Erik, because he has some similarities with Raheem. Erik didn't lose to Raheem because of Raheem's style, he lost because he was a dead man walking.

 

Sorry man but that just makes no sense , he wasnt a lightwelter so we will never know.

Its like saying if all fighters were the same size who would win???

 

Morales had never fought a slick boxer before, he said as much. Unlike Raheem, Pacquiao comes forward at all times and lives himself open to be countered. Raheem on the other hand is constantly moving in circles, boxing slipping, countering ect. Raheem initiates the contact from a safe distance. Pacquiao initiates the contact and always falls in with his punches. As to why Marquez was able to counter him, just by pulling backwards a little.


Clearly, as with the weight drain, Raheem style played just as much into why he bested Morales as to why Morales, being severely weight drained was still able to give Pacquiao fits in the rematch.

style match up. Plain and simple. Maidana comes forward nothing but offense, no defense. We've seen it countless times throughout history. Faded fighters looking like they are back when they fight a guy who comes forward. We saw it with Mosley vs Margarito. Foreman vs Moorer and Briggs. Morales didnt hae to guess where Maidana was going to be. Morales knew that every right hand he threw was going to land. Just as when he fought Pacquiao.

So Morales was a dead man walking vs Raheem, but wasnt when he fought Pacquiao even though he had to kill himself to make weight. Ok. :rofl

 

Then I go Khan , because he was simply too big, and Morales is already two weights above his prime.

Do I think Khan is a better boxer than Morales?

Not this lifetime.