If 8 division champ is simple as just using PED?!

Lol you're a believer in Roger Mayweather's Filipino A-Side Meth theory?

 

Well you have to be good, you need to start small, you need PEDs, and you need the political leverage to get the title fights. Jorge Arce won 4 world titles with an interim title in a 5th. He also lost a world title fight in a 6th. Was he ever the best fighter around? Not really.

He actually lost both times he fought for the 115 title when it was held. He captured it twice when it was vacant against less worthy competition. Lots of politics involved. The interim title at 112? He defended it 4 times while the actual champ (Wonjongkam) defended that title himself. Many fighters are lucky to get one title shot at all. Arce's career shows what the right backers can do for you.

 

Broners career is a better example of that.

 

Great, now try winning the liberal championships or ring magazine championship. Quite a bit different from cherry picking your way through the divisions.

 

I wouldn't say "better", but it certainly gets brought up a lot more. The difference being people think highly of Arce and not so much of Broner. Of course, Manny Pacquiao also fought for a half dozen vacant belts, and when people say 8 divisions they're doing some pretty charitable accounting. RING and Lineal belts aren't usually the basis for such claims. The former because, uh, it's a magazine. The latter because it's completely made up. But I'm neither cynical nor ignorant enough to use that as an argument to say Pacquiao isn't one of the greatest fighters of the 21st century. I just wouldn't use the 8 weight trivia to justify it either.

 

Some of these threads are random AF

 

Depends, who are you acussing? Peds don't make your chin better, fix your reflexes, make the other guys punches softer.
But it must add confidence being bigger faster stronger, otherwise what would be the point of juicing? Technically, it does nothing for ring iq or technique or fundamentals i guess it does improve skill as in birthing a harder puncher, a more confident ability to throw and believe in ones punches. Which in return, adds a lot to their style or helps them ko the opponent before getting chin checked or pulled into deep waters

 

Who says they don't?

 

I thought about this, you may be right. Watching Marquez Pacquiao four you definitely have a point.

 

Punch absorbishment COULD go up. Thicker neck, thicker torso,

 

Do you really think that passing anti-doping protocol means that you are not using drugs? Lance Armstrong was the most tested athlete in history.

To answer your question, no, it is not just hot sauce, because everyone is using hot sauce.

 

Idk, they didn't help Manny's chin much.

 

I assume you mistaken me. I meant Marquez was on that Tijuana juice. If you mean Manny I ain't arguing at all.

 

The belts are made up too. They’ve just been given physical form. The lineal is more important because it’s THE champ, not A champ. The lineal is the equivalent of beating the actual reigning champ when there was only a single belt. So you shouldn’t discount it.