If a boxer completely dominates a round but suffers a KD, how should the round be scored?

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If a boxer completely dominates a round but suffers a KD, how should the round be scored?

  1. 10-8 for the party that dominated but scored the KD.

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  2. 10-9 for the same, if you believe the adversary truly dominated, enough to completely offset the KD.

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  3. 10-10 if you felt the dropped party was so dominant as to have otherwise deserved a 10-8.

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  1. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    How so?
     
  2. DanielDimov

    DanielDimov Jabbing all night Full Member

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    In my opinion boxing should go to normal scoring - Each round gives you a point and that's it. If someone scores a KD, gets a point. I feel like this would be fair enough.
     
  3. HitmanMG

    HitmanMG New Member Full Member

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    I don't think he dominated the round either. I think he recovered nicely, but was in survival mode. I scored that one 10-8 for sure. Wilder was trying to destroy Fury when the fight resumed. Fury took a few additional hard shots.
     
  4. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    10-8 should be the answer in 90% of cases.

    10-9 is acceptable sometimes.

    9-8 is acceptable NEVER.
     
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  5. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By rights, if a knockdown is scored, the boxing who is knocked down loses a point. So it should be even. In reality, nowadays, judges just automatically score it 10-8 to the fighter scoring the KD. Which I think is wrong, but there you go...
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Explain what you mean by "even" - do you mean 10-10 or 9-9?

    One is acceptable. The other absolutely isn't.

    (And no, "by rights", you don't lose a point when knocked down, compulsorily. You only compulsorily lose a point when a ref takes a point for a foul)
     
  7. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I meant 10-10. Clumsy use of words. 9-9 is only possible when a point has been deducted.
     
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  8. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :thumbsup:

    Phew. Yes. You've passed the basic boxing scoring knowledge test. :D
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Exactly correct. If, in this scenario, Fury had also dropped Wilder, the knockdowns cancel each other out and you decide who won the majority of the round and give it to them 10-9. :thumbsup:
     
  10. Stiff Jab

    Stiff Jab Despiser of Super-Middleweights Full Member

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    I think the example given by OP is not the best one. The knockdown round (forget the number, but it was an early one) in Moore-Holyfield I would be a better example. Moore absolutely was dominating that round, making Evander miss, putting him on the defensive, landing frequently and cleanly, then right towards the end Holy caught Moore with a perfect shot that dropped Moore. While not a flash knockdown, it wasn't a heavy one, and Moore easily made it to his feet. It ended up being the deciding round in the fight with each judge scoring it differently (10-8 Holy, 10-9 Holy, and 10-10 respectively).

    In that example, I say 10-9. I can't ignore the one-sided work being done in 95% of the round and then give that boxer a two-point hole. I feel that is justifiable, given how rare this kind of situation is; most of the time the boxer who scored the knockdown was also winning the round, (KD's are usually scored after being set-up, or at least on the back of effective work prior) or at least competitive (the way Pacquiao was with Thurman in the first round of their fight: a close round I felt Pacquiao was juuuust losing before the KD.)

    10-10 is inexcusable unless the boxer who dominating 95% of the fight also seriously rocked the guy who knocked him down. I'm talking spaghetti legs, stumble towards the ropes, turtling up and running, probably should take a knee kind of rocking.
     
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  11. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    That’s a 10-8 Wilder round clear as day.

    A flash kd where the other guy dominates is 10-9 to the guy who scored the kd.
     
  12. FastSmith7

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    9-9
    Dominating a round requires immense concentration and effort, scoring a knockdown is very often just a lucky shot or a lapse in concentration. Knockdowns are overrated in boxing, as long as you get up and carry on winning the round, you should be looked at more favourably.
     
  13. PrinceNaseemHamed

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    I think you’ll find it very hard to find any round with a KD where the victim of the KD has dominated so much as to warrant a 10-9. Round 12 of Fury-Wilder definitely wasn’t that
     
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  14. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Did you say 9-9? Well, sorry, but regardless of how insightful or correct anything else you've said may be, YOU ARE WRONG.

    If you don't want to make it 10-8 Wilder, you can make it 10-9 Wilder. YOU MAY NOT score it 9-9 unless the ref docked a point from Wilder for a foul.
     
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  15. Chiefit420

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    9-8 for the guy who scored the knockdown or it could easily be a draw round given how bad the other guy dominated the round but most times the guy scoring the knockdown gets awarded the round not always but most times