If a boxer completely dominates a round but suffers a KD, how should the round be scored?

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If a boxer completely dominates a round but suffers a KD, how should the round be scored?

  1. 10-8 for the party that dominated but scored the KD.

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  2. 10-9 for the same, if you believe the adversary truly dominated, enough to completely offset the KD.

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  3. 10-10 if you felt the dropped party was so dominant as to have otherwise deserved a 10-8.

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  1. Nopporn

    Nopporn Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Generally, 10-8 will be scored for the one who knocked his opponent down no matter he was completely dominated before that or not.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I've said it in a previous post. 90% of the time I would score 10-8 for the knockdown.

    The only exception being if I was going to score it 10-8 to the other fighter.

    If there's a round and one guy lands 30 clean power shots and is on the verge of stopping his opponent , the other scores a flash knockdown, the one scoring the knockdown wins 10-9
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    A flash knockdown to you obliterates anything a fighter could have done before getting knockdown, that's why your forum name is lufcrazy. LOL!

    It rarely happens in a high profile fight where a fighter completely obliterates the other but suffers a flash knockdown. I most definitey wouldn't pull a 3 point swing over a flash knockdown like you would.
    If anyone can point to a particular fight where that happened, I'd be interested in trying to find out how the official judges scored that round.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    If you knock a fighter down you win the round unless you've been knocked down yourself or had a point deducted.

    Nothing crazy about that.

    If Wilder would have dropped Ortiz at the end of round 7 I'd have given him the round 10-9.

    If Ortiz would have gotten up hurt and Wilder looked on the verge of stopping him I'd have given it 10-8.
     
  5. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    If he completely dominates the round it should be even because if he was actually dominating it should be a 10-8 for him even with no knock down
     
  6. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You just said that if a fighter knocks down the other, he wins that round no matter what the fighter knockdown might have done. That fighter might have outpunched the other 30 shots to just the one shot that resulted in the knockdown but yet you give the round to the fighter that scored an excuse me knockdown...…...

    My question to you is that is this just your philosophy in scoring a round or do you think those are the actual regulatory rules to scoring???

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  7. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    oh brother stfu! Give it a rest. You dont know the first thing about me. Nice try though. You want to talk boxing lets talk. Nobody wants to read your wannabe Dr. Phil garbage.
     
  8. Boxing Prospect

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    10-10, 10-9 or 10-8

    Really depends on the round.

    If it's a close round (a 10-9 either way type) it's an auto 10-8
    If it's a very clear round to the guy who gets dropped, it can (potentially) be a 10-9
    If a guy beats the ever loving **** out of his opponent, other than the knockdown, and would have won the round 10-8 himself, it could (potentially) be 10-10...but those are very rare occasions
     
  9. PIRA

    PIRA Arise Sir Lennox. Full Member

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    Agree :thumbsup:
    Was taught as a judge that if you legit scored a round 10-7 then you should be having a quick chat with ref and doc to see if it should go on and ensure everyone is concerned.
     
  10. goku23

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    When both fighters score a KD in a round, its scored 10-10
    Clearly dominating a round except for suffering a split second KD should be scored a 9 IMO

    Fury didn't clearly dominate the round even though it could be argued he won it, so it was 10-8 to Wilder for me.
    Had Fury completely dominated and suffered a flash KD, it would've been 10-9 to Wilder instead
     
  11. Cafe

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    I score it either disregarding the KD (say a push/slip and the ref rules it), 10-8 even if the other guy won the rest of the round for a legit KD. If it's a VERY dominant round for the guy who got knocked down I'd score it 10-10. 9-9 just looks funny to me and 10-10 is practically the same thing anyway.

    I've no idea how it works officially though.
     
  12. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Round 7 Ortiz was very close to stopping Wilder and its consensus score 10-8 Ortiz despite no kd.

    I don't think there are set rules regarding knockdowns, I think it's open to interpretation.
     
  13. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You would be rewarding Wilder 3 points for a knockdown that didn't even stun Fury.
    You'd be taking a round that absolutely was dominated by Fury and rewarding Wilder with winning it.
    To me, with the flashdown scored by Wilder, instaed of being a 10-8 Fury round, I reward Wilder a point for the flash knockdown.
    Common sense would tell you scoring that round 10-9 Fury would be the fairest way to score it, but a lot of the time even the official judges score it 10-8, which isn't suprising in the least to me. Most of these judges don't use any common sense, which is why we have so many horrendous decisions take place.
     
  14. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    If you're talking about the first fight yes, Ortiz was close to stopping Wilder, definitely a 10-8 round to Ortiz with no knockdowns scored, yet you would score that round 10-8 Wilder if Ortiz would have been standing off balance and Wilder extended a jab out that put Ortiz down more because he was off balance than anything to do with the force of Wilder's jab.
    A four point swing negating a round for Ortiz that almost has Wilder out, all over an excuse me jab while Ortiz' feet are wrongly placed and are off balance. LOL!

    The rules of scoring are meant to reward a fighter 1 additional point for scoring a knockdown, definitely not 4, not 3, or even two points.
    1 point should be rewarded for a knockdown.

    Judges and those of us scoring at home need to have are thinking caps on and use some common sense in scoring such rounds.
     
  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    So had Wilder scored a flash knockdown, how would you award that round?

    Your post doesn't make sense. Take an even round, a guy scores a flash knockdown, that gains them 2 extra points.

    Take a close but clear round, losing guy scores a flash knockdown that's a 3 point swing.