If a fighter's "Greatness" is judged by his "prime", how long does it have to be?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jazzo, Aug 22, 2007.


  1. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It isn't like the canvas can duck a painter though, is it -questionmark-
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Who all do you think Cal ducked?
     
  3. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    People are forgetting about Calzaghe's assumed resume -fullstop-
     
  4. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nobody, fights just couldn't be made -fullstop-
     
  5. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    I've never heard of Cal ducking anyone, except of course Kess but that's been answered. Anyone know where the Iron boy is fighting...what channel?
     
  6. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    If joe was concerned about his legacy he most definitely could have instructed his promoter to make fights or else. He continues to sign with Frank Warren, who is notorious for protecting his fighters and keeping them in fights he knows they can win and in the UK. Cant blame him because the fans over there dont care, they just want to come to the fights.
    Look at the situation with Hatton, he did the right thing forced Warren to make the Tsyzu fight, and now finds himself in a legacy making fight with the sports P4P #1, once he got away from Warren and out of the UK. Calzahge had plenty of top notch opponents that he missed out on, including but not limited to Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr, Antonio Tarver etc etc. Joe seemed to run his mouth a lot, but never got the fights made, and that hurt him a bit. The Lacy fight certainly showed he was a solid player, but since then its been back to the C level circuit.
     
  7. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    That is not the point. If the painter cannot for any reason paint his greatest imagined creation, he will not be able to take any credit simply for having thought it/ imagined it.
     
  8. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Hopkins fight was attempted - B-Hop wanted none of it though -fullstop- What on earth would murdering Tarver have proved though -questionmark-
     
  9. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe's assumed resume includes victories over Hopkins, Jones, Toney, DM, John Ruiz, Mormeck, Holyfield -fullstop- We should give him credit for those victories -fullstop-
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, maybe. The thing is though, Calzaghe showed zero ambition. If he really wanted these really big fights he had to

    a) go to America

    b) be very flexible about taking a pay cut.

    He did neither. When the writing was on the wall as firmly as could be - LEAVE FRANK WARREN -, when Hatton did just that, he still hung back. His attitude - on the record - is, "I am the Champion, they should come to me, why should I take a paycut?"
     
  11. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    That Fat, Cowardly, Disgrace of a Champion shouldn't even be mentioned in a thread about Fighters and GREATNESS!!! :bart
     
  12. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    a fighters prime is 1 of the many factors that factor into greatness
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    If he had shown any ambition, overall, then you might be on to somethng.

    As things stand, this post is delusional and/or trolling.
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    :nut
     
  15. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We all know Calzaghe would have beaten the lot of them, but people insist on placing below them on P4P lists -fullstop-