If a fighter's "Greatness" is judged by his "prime", how long does it have to be?

Thats fine, he can have that attitude, but its not the right attitude to make the era defining fights hes in need of in my opinion. First off hes the WBO champion, a title that is lightly regarded by the elite fighters, especially in the US, and all fighters have to work with their promoters to make the elite fights. Look at Zab Judah for instance, he fought for nothing to get a second shot at Corey Spinks. Calzahge coming to America and fighting Hopkins or Roy Jones, would net him a payday far higher than anything hes seen in the UK, believe that.

 

China....sorry to burst your bubble but in this sport is all about what you do and not what you could have done.

When will you realize this.

 

If you are better you are better, it is as simple as that -fullstop- It doesn't matter whether you fight Lennox Lewis or Eric Crumble (outside of learning curves - fighters learn against good opponents, that isn't an issue for Calzaghe though), if you are the best you are the best -fullstop-

 

well actually if you look at very old paintings and art you should consider they did have the same quality paint brushes, paints and materials available today. Should we then say artists would have been greater had they had those things? How were pyramids built? you have to make thigns happen you cant complain about should have could have crap.

 

Achilles was not the greatest fighter at Troy until he left his tent and started fighting. Whatever the reason for which he didn't fight beforehand, main thing is he didn't fight, so he couldn't be the best.

Fortunately for Calzaghe, not only do many people think that he would have beaten those guys, but he also has a chance to actually become p4p no.1 by beating Kessler, and two of winner of Berrio/Bute, winner of Taylor/Pavlik, winner of Dawson/Diaconu...by any reasonable standards.

 

I think what CHJ should be saying is that Joe is the most talented fighter of his generation and that he had the potential to become the greatest. This, suddenly, does not appear to be so controversial/problematic as the things that he seems to want to argue.

 

No China it's not as simple as that....maybe in your little world Joe is potentially the greatest of all time; But to the rest of the breathing world he has left more to desire.

 

That won't get him to number one -fullstop- Americans -fullstop-

 

Surely if you are that good, you should be the assumed greatest too -questionmark-

 

Yes I understand that, using that logic I could name at least a dozen fighters who would fit right into that category but facts are facts and opinions are like assholes everyone has one.

 

That wouldn't make him P4P #1....Sorry :nono . But although the two can't be compared in fighting ability, being that Achilles is viewed as one of the greatest warriors this world has ever seen and Calzaghe spends his time slapping body builders and tv Reality stars, they are however similar in other areas. Did you know that Patroclus wasn't really Achilles cousin (as the movie suggests), but actually his 'Gay Lover'.....so you see the parallels between Achilles and Calzaghe are definitely there :think

 

Your kidding right???