If a fighter's "Greatness" is judged by his "prime", how long does it have to be?

You are a favorite poster of mine, so I won't make you look silly for making that post.

 

HUMAN boxer...ehh?

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I don't know...my lack of knowledge is letting me down...sorry!:good

 

I have time. Go for it:good

 

Don't worry. I always keep my word.

 

There are types of shrimp that are P4P better.

 

Well then we shall save this for another time, though someone will surely take up your position for you.

Calzaghe is maybe one of the 3 most talented fighters in the world now. A win over Kessler may show everyone this without dispute. But sir, it is not about Americans. The P4P lists are full of non Americans. 2 Brits reside there as we speak, at least on MINE.

 

I think a great fighter continues to have great fights during and after his "prime". A great fighter can lose and come back. A great fighter will dig in and win long after his prime is past. Primes are fleeting, and great fighter will surpass this with battles and heart

 

Though non North and South Americans suffer on all time lists. You are a bizaare American though.

 

Well you can also use Calzaghes lack of mental toughness against Bika, he actually even admitted he was mentally unprepared.

 

The problem is that people don't know when a fighters prime is. Take Hopkins for example. People this his prime is when he beat Trinidad. No it's not....Hopkins had better outtings in the mid to late 90's than he ever did against Trinidad. That fight is when he got recognition and great achievment in the publics eyes....but it was not the best version of Hopkins. (See Glen Johnson fight for Hopkins prime about 4 years earlier). The same can be said of MAB when he beat Hamed. That was a little past his best MAB. MAB has fought a long long time.

Conversly, people think when you LOSE you have just left your prime, ala Jones to Tarver. Jones prime was from about 94-2000 or so. He was slowing down since then. But since he never lost, people assume he was still prime. He wasn't. Just a past his prime version was still winning.

 

Underprepared, not deficient.

 

You are the only American who realises Hopkins prime wasn't when he was 41.

 

Good point but failing to be consistant in this sport can cost you your life or cause you to lose a bout that you should dominate with flying colors. I think I've used up all my "Sitting with China Hand Joe" tea time for the day I think we can continue this intrigueing convo sometime in the near future.:smoke

 

This thread had one of the best china_hand_joe performances in recent forum history.

In your opinion, what would happen if a motivated prime Calzaghe fought an exact clone of himself in his prime at top motivation over 12 rounds?