If a heavyweight is KO'd by a super middle weight and knocked down by another

The wording above the voting poll says , '' and knocked down by a 160 pound guy.''
I think 10 1/4 pounds is significant,it takes him into a higher weight class.
So yes ,it does make a difference.
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The size of a fighter is less important than how hard and how effectivley they hit.

George Foreman for example is regarded (rightly) as being one of the more durable heavyweight champions in history yet he was dropped by Jimmy Young.

Does anybody here think that Jimmy Young hit harder than Joe Choynski or Stanley Ketchel?

If not then why should Foreman get a pass for it just because he was droped by a feather fisted fighter who happened to weigh over 200 lbs?

The bottom line is that fighters with enexceptional power somtimes drop or stagger durable fighters and Smaller fighters somtimes hit much harder than bigger fighters.

If sombody gets dropped by Bob Satterfield you dont say "he got dropped by a lightheavyweigh". You say "he got dropped by one of the most formidable punches of that era".

 

Ali was dropped by188 lbs Cooper
Hart was stopped by164 lbs Gardner
Both are generally accepted as having good chins I think.

 

it dosent matter IMO

it depends who they were obviously if it was some tough journyman Heavyweight who was crap and got KOd by the greatest ever middle it would change it.

If it was a Heavyweight champ who got dropped by a hard hitting middle it could be a freak event

 

Twice is very few considering the conditions he fought in, and how often he fought.

 

The super middleweight was Joe Choynsky,among the men he kod was
Frank Childs
Jim Hall
Peter Maher
George Godfrey.
Jim Jeffries went on record as saying "the hardest punch I ever received was from Joe Choynsky "
In their 20 rd draw Choynsky smashed a right hand into Jeffries mouth ,so powerful it drove his tooth through his lip ,so far it had to be cut out with a knife.
You can check this out by googling Jeffries/ Choynsky and going to Wikipedia , the free encyclopedia, it also has a photo of Choynsky ,arms out stretched ,with Johnson standing behind him.The photo was taken by the Chicago Daily News, in 1909, 8 years after their 1901 fight.
The size difference is not that huge, imo,check for yourself.
Johnson was 6 1/4in Choynsky between 5 10 1/2 and 5 11 1/2in ,[ sources vary].Bear in mind Johnson was 8 years younger ,and still maturing physically when they fought.
Jeffries and Johnson BOTH called Choynsky the hardest puncher they fought.

 

Definetly

 

It obviously points to flaws, though I think those flaws are as much or more related to focus than beard.

A good pr machine never hurts, also.

 

Voted yes.

By the way, Haye has a bad chin. Solis stopped him and so did, well, say it.............

 

And Haye would've stopped Solis in the first under pro rules, he had him on ***** street.

David Tua was sparked by the first punch by Felix Savon in the amateurs, ever see him dropped in the pro's??? Awful psot.

 

The" super middleweight ".referred to is Joe Choynsky.
Herbert Goldman ,the eminent boxing historian who edited 3 Ring Record books ,including the collectors edition 86/86 one , was the managing Editor of the Ring for the much of the 70's into the 80's ,and the Editor in Chief of Boxing Illustrated .
He gave an interview to the CBZ Journal, .
In the interview Goldman stated he considered Choynsky the FIRST LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION,and said that he fought in three fights billed as such ,this was in 1899,Choynsky ultimately lost his title to Kid McCoy.
A picture of Choynsky standing with Johnson directly behind him in a mirror like pose can be found on the Wikipedia free encyclopedia site , the photo was taken in 1909 8 years after their fight.A physical comparison can be made but of course Johnsonwas 8 years older and more mature when the photo was taken.
The" middleweight" referred to is Stanley Ketchel who scaled 170 1/4 lbs for that fight ,so he was NOT a middleweight at fight time

 

Joe Choynski was one of the hardest and most effective punchers of his weight that ever lived.

He is going to be a prety unforgiving oponent for any fighter who is still learning his trade.

And yes I think he could have dropped most heavyweight champions in their prime.