If a heavyweight is KO'd by a super middle weight and knocked down by another

I clicked yes on the proviso we are talking about a 'modern' HW, i.e 14 stone and over.

 

If you disagree with Janitor's assessment ,how do you account for both Jeffries and Johnson stating that Choynslky was the hardest hitter the faced?
Choynsky kod Godfrey ,Maher ,and Childs all leading top liners of the time.
Many big punchers have a low % of kos ,Ike Williams eg.

 

Further info for you.
Ko %'s
Bob Satterfield 44.3%
Lloyd Marshall 36%
Curtess Hatchet Man Sheppard 37.93%
Sugar Ray Robinson 54%
JOE CHOYNSKY 40.48%

Choynsky fought from 1887 till 1904 17 years its not surprising his % went down as he got older.
How many kos did Ali score in his last fights?
See? you can't get everything from old newpapers .:nono

 

Yes I am ,but I didnt know how to set one up on my thread so I might not get many votes either way.
By the way two more big punchers with %'s comparable to Choynsky's [40.48%]
Peyer Maher 42%
Sam Langford 40.48%
Add Ike Williams 38.7%
Figures don't tell the whole story.
ps I found a link ,looking for something else that mentions that Corbett dropped Jeffries in sparring, I doubt this, but I can't find the link again.
Note Choynsky did not drop Jeffries,. despite hitting him with a right hand that Jeffries said was a bomb.
Its possible Jeffries had the best chin of any heavyweight,we will never know.

 

Johnson was no more than a super middleweight himself at the time he fought Choynski. He weighed in at 168 lbs against Jim McCormick and the fight against Choynski was not long after that.

And yes, David Haye was knocked down and nearly stopped by a super middleweight journeyman Lolenga Mock.

 

Choynski scored 34 knockouts in his 52 wins. That's a pretty good KO record for his era, especially considering that he fought many bigger men. He also won fights by DQ when his opponents fouled out as they were losing.

Some of the fights back in the day did not go more than 3-6 rounds. Who knows if he could have knocked out some of the opponents he went the distance with had the fights been scheduled for 12-20 rounds...

 

as someone stated not for how many times he fought

and didnt he lose to the SMW by KO early in his career

thanks i knew he was regarded as a big hitter but thanks as that was informative

 

For the posters who have taken part in this poll ,I should like to correct something.The title states"If a Heavyweight is kod by a super middle weight".
etc
The Heavyweight in question was kod by the super middle weight in 1901, no argument about that.
However, in 1900 UNDER 10 MONTHS EARLIER to be exact,that "heavyweight scaled 168 lbs in a fight against Jim Mcormick.
So ,what we actually have is a fight between 2 SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHTS.
One of them a young fighter just starting out on his career,still learning ,still maturing mentally and physically.
The other a seasoned veteran of 64 fights against such men as .
Corbett
Fitz
Sharkey
Jeffries
O Donell
Hall
Martin
Walcott
McCoy
Childs
Denver Ed Smith
Godfey
Goddard
Creedon
Russell
Maher
Ruhlin.
In short a very big punching fighter of vast experience against a fighter just starting to make his way, in the biggest fight of his life.

So when you vote please bear this in mind.

 

Here is the picture you aluded to.

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Thanks Janitor :good,of course the picture was taken 8 YEARS LATER, when Johnson had had time to mature physically into the 208lbs fighter he was in his prime.

 

Johnson wasn't in his peak physical condition, he pretty much a super-middle himself at time he fought Choynski, who by the wway is an excellent puncher as mcvey has already said, and as other's have said, Ketchel wasn't a middle at the time of the Johnson fight. Besides, we are talking about naturally one of the hardest hitters of all-time. There's many a great HW he would of floored that night.