If AJ does vacate WBO belt vs USYK is that a duck?

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AJ dumps the WBO belt is a massive duck?

  1. Hell no ! AJ is just frustrated because Fury fight fell through.

  2. AJ ass just prolapsed when he heard he's fighting USYK

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  1. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I knew that you will fail and I did not had posted this for you at all.
    If someone was more interested, he had read up this and I will be happy not to discuss with you anymore.
     
  2. xnico

    xnico New Member banned Full Member

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    100% duck
     
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  3. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Course it’s a duck.

    AJ kept talking about how important his belts are to him. How he had to get them back from Ruiz.
     
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    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. The Akbar One

    The Akbar One Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Not sure why he would avoid Usyk. Usyk seems fairly light punching and is smaller. Who would he fight instead?
     
  6. BCS8

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    Of course its a duck.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    On the surface of it, yeah it is.

    But if he fights a better HW than Usyk instead, it can't be called a duck.
     
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  8. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Does a Duck swim in water?
     
  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.

    If he avoids Usyk to fight the winner of Fury/Wilder then he's going to end up fighting a better or at the very least, a more dangerous fighter than Usyk anyways. So a move like that shouldn't really be called a "duck" but if he vacates his belt to fight Whyte or Ruiz then yeah thats obviously a duck
     
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  10. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    No, AJ did not duck Wilder. Wilder himself stated he could have fought AJ but chose Fury instead.

    Wilder ducked AJ to fight Fury who he thought would be an easier scalp.
     
  11. N17

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    Firstly I have to say there is a "good" chance Usyk Vs AJ is made.. but there is also a fair chance AJ vacates.

    Right, anyway, Hearn and AJ need get their story straight.

    They (Hearn) are saying they don't want to do what the governing bodies say.. but let's remember the WBA hasn't "demanded" or "requested" a mandatory since AJ fought Povetkin in 2018.

    So the WBA haven't demanded or told AJ what to do for nearly 3 years and don't look like doing that any time soon.. they were quite willing to allow the undisputed and when that fell through didn't even raise the possibility of a mandatory.

    So please don't buy any of Hearns crap about being told what to do by all the governing bodies.

    We are talking about just 2, the IBF and WBO, and it's not over the top to ask for mandatory challengers get their shot, it's a normal everyday part of being champion, you have to deal with mandatory challengers.

    Let's also remember the governing bodies WBA, IBF and WBO were going to allow the undisputed fight. So none have made it difficult.

    What the WBO have done is basically say... if you haven't made the undisputed, you may make it next afte Fury Wilder and that is being spun as two fights, it could be another 18 months before our mandatory (which is due now) gets their shot.. so we are ordering the fight now.

    ITS NOT UNREASONABLE.


    The other excuse is Usyk wants too much money, that can't be a problem right? WBO Mandatory challengers apparently get 20% of a purse bid.

    That's not an excessive amount or percentage, again let's remember Hearn sold the Chisora Vs Usyk fight on the back of "Usyk is a P4P fighter, undisputed CW champion, unbeaten and a genuine threat to the division, it's a PPV fight when you throw Chisora in"

    So now throwing AJ in makes it an even bigger fight, far bigger, Hearn can't turn around now and pretend Usyk isn't worth 20% after ramming his tongue up Usyks backside before the Chisora PPV.


    So now let's imagine AJ vacates... Hearn is talking about vacating and fighting either Whyte or Ortiz, forget Ruiz, they won't do that again, too dangerous for AJ.. are you telling me Whyte wouldn't want more money than Usyk? A far higher percentage?

    Whyte declined the AJ fight before because he said the money wasn't good enough.

    So the idea Whyte steps in and takes a modest purse or won't demand a lorry load of money while he is apparently mandatory himself for the WBC title (or at least right in the mix) and should hopefully get his shot soon... well to suggest he won't ask for an incredible amount of money is naive at best.

    Two weeks ago Hearn started mouthing off about Whyte and his WBC title shot again, Hearn also wants Whyte to fight Wilder regardless of a belt.. Hearn doesn't know what story to tell.

    So what will happen is if AJ vacates... Hearn will spin Whytes name, pretend they tried to make a deal but Whyte wants the winner of Fury Vs Wilder and say it was late notice, everybody else is tied up and AJ had no other option but to fight Ortiz.

    Yeah, Luis Ortiz, 97 year old Ortiz, a man Wilder sparked out twice, last time being nearly two years ago.


    If AJ vacates and fights Ortiz then he deserves every ounce of abuse and ridicule that comes his way.


    IF AJ VACATES IT WILL BE A DUCK.
     
  12. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They already before this had well sold one fight : Bellew vs Usyk.
    Then they told: here will be fight for Undisputed and The Ring belt here, buy tickets etc.
    Now: Usyk had did nothing special etc excuses.
    Anyone here might claim that Usyk is not a big draw and doesn't generates money etc.
    Bellew vs Usyk according to internet sources had better sales than Whyte vs Povetkin I and II fights and cos this was before covid, live gates sales too were very good.
    Again, ppl will post here that anything where Usyk was involved doesn't brings enough money, all internet media are fake etc claims.
    Sorry, Usyk is bigger draw in Europe and U.K than Pulev, Takam AJ had fought with.

    If this will go till purse bids, there might be enough interesents because who we really do have at HW top?

    Wilder vs Fury looks that are tied up for fight?
    Whyte? A.J already had beat him.
    What else there is? Maybe Povetkin vs A.J II or Pulev vs AJ II? Ruiz III? Ortiz vs A.J?
    Parker II fight?

    If A.J will fight vs Usyk this might be sold with good numbers because if Wilder and Fury are tied up? then what else new here might happen?
     
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