If AJ fights like vs Wlad, can he beat Usyk?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by GotchaHat, Aug 8, 2022.

  1. GotchaHat

    GotchaHat Member Full Member

    Jun 7, 2021
    If AJ fights like he did against another Ukrainian in Wladimir Klitschko, very aggressive, looking for the KO, can he beat Usyk? Usyk doesn't have much power like Wlad, so AJ won't need to worry about it
  2. djfonti

    djfonti Active Member Full Member

    Jun 25, 2005
    He fought aggressive for the first half of round five and almost got stopped for his trouble. He needed a full five and half more rounds off to catch his breath and get a second wind.

    This AJ from the Wlad fight is a myth.
  3. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Active Member Full Member

    Nov 24, 2019
    Even if Joshua starts more aggressively, Usyk will not be worried, Usyk is not as strong as Wladimir, but he is a faster and more skilled fighter than Wladimir...
  4. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

    Nov 17, 2018
    If AJ comes barreling forward, he will get countered hard and will have plenty to worry about. Usyk hits hard enough.
  5. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

    Aug 19, 2020
    He fought more aggressively vs Wlad early. It wasn't just an aggressive round 5, AJ was miles ahead after 5 rounds.

    He was gassed largely because of all his early dominance, he was young and inexperienced.

    If AJ can take a straight right from Wlad and hang on and get his 2nd wind, he may be able to do that vs Usyk.

    I suppose it depends on just how good Usyk's chin is, we'll see.
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  6. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Икрашевић Full Member

    Nov 3, 2021
    It's not that AJ anymore (from the fight with Wlad).
    Anthony Joshua's "spring" ended when he knocked out Povetkin; when only Joseph Parker finished the fight on his feet and everyone else was knocked out.
    Only a knockout win can restore AJ's confidence, because I don't see how AJ would beat Usyk on points.
    How likely is such a scenario?
    And if AJ manages to do that, he will be deservedly forgiven for all his past criticisms.
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  7. djfonti

    djfonti Active Member Full Member

    Jun 25, 2005
    He did. But it was against an older, relatively static target. And even then it was sharp counters and leads based off of boxing, not this aggressive pressure fighter that everyone is calling for. He was still relatively restrained until round 5. Ultimately it wasn't sustainable and his win owed as much to the age and generosity of his opponent than it did to his own efforts. I think people remember the flashpoints of the fight and disregard everything else and think to themselves 'bring that monster back!' Well that monster only existed for a couple of rounds and it came at great cost.

    His attitude and mindset from that fight is what's required if he's to have any hope of success regardless of what tactics he adopts this time. But this notion he was this unstoppable force doesn't really tally up with what happened.
  8. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Addict Full Member

    Dec 5, 2010
    Fighting like Vlad requires having the best footwork of any SHW ever. It's not for everyone, and it is certainly not for a stiff robotic fighter.

    People think Vladdo dominated with jabs, grabs, and some power punching. It was all his feet.
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  9. miniq

    miniq You Big Stiff Idiot Full Member

    Oct 23, 2011
    AJ & Wlad are big stiff idiots
  10. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Икрашевић Full Member

    Nov 3, 2021
    Does anyone remember how Anthony Joshua defied and backed up Dillian Whyte?

    Does this (2022) AJ look like that Anthony Joshua to you?
  11. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

    Mar 17, 2006
    No because he can't fight like Wlad. His jab isn't strong enough, neither is his clinch game or distance control.
    He got away with it in Ruiz 2 cause Andy was in dire shape but even then still had success when AJ opened up.

    AJ is going to have to get on the front foot and land combinations but I dont think he has the gas tank to sustain it.
  12. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 29, 2007
    AJ can and will knock out Usyk.
  13. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

    Oct 18, 2009
    He just needs to box like Johnny Nelson given that he's only an average southpaw that Johnny would beat........ apparently
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